Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.21 – January 17, 1970, Los Angeles

700117SB-Los Angeles [37:17 Minutes]

Prabhupada: So we were discussing last week about Ajamila, Ajamila, how he was a brahmana in the city of Kanauj, Kanyakubja.

In Vedic civilization, a perfect human civilization, wherein the regulative principles are very strict.... Sadacaraḥ and kadacaraḥ. Sadacaraḥ..., sat means characteristics which helps one to elevate himself to the transcendental platform. That is called sadacaraḥ. And kadacaraḥ..., the just the opposite is kadacaraḥ. Kadacaraḥ means not to the standard of human civilization. That is called kadacaraḥ.

So Vedic civilization means that people were trained up in such a way that ultimately he comes to the transcendental platform and he understands his real position in this world, his relationship with God, and he acts accordingly, so that he gets the chance of utilizing this human form of life to the best possibility. That means to end this wandering in the cycle of 8,400,000 species of life and get oneself out of this entanglement.

That is the perfection of human civilization. Human civilization does not mean that to improve the process of eating, sleeping, mating and defensing. That is not human civilization. That may be called a civilization, but that is external; that is not internal.

We are not this external body, but we are internal soul. That we must understand. That is possible to be understood in the human form of life, not in other form of life. The cats and dogs, they cannot distinguish what is internal and what is external. That is not possible for them. But the human society, human being, is endowed with such nice development of consciousness that there is automatic enquiry, which is explained in the Vedanta-sūtra as athato brahma-jijnasa, enquiry. Enquiry about the soul, athato brahm..., this human form of life is meant for understanding what I am.

So this enquiry should be awakened. That is the perfection of human civilization-not that improving the condition of eating, sleeping, mating and defending. That is not the... They are not the problems. According to Vedic civilization, these four necessities are needs of the body. Eating, sleeping, mating and defending, they are not problems.

The example is given that..., that lower animals who are not human being, they have no such problems. They have no problems for eating, sleeping, mating and defending. That is naturally done, or by nature's law these things are arranged.

Just like eating for the bird is already arranged. They live in the trees, and the little fruits that are growing in the trees, that solves their economic problem for eating. They have got sleeping accommodation also; according to the different birds, they have got sleeping accommodation. They have got mating accommodation also: along with the male bird there is the female bird also. So in this way you see in the lower animal life these things are already arranged.

Similarly, for human being also these things are also already arranged. There is no problem. But we have created problem, because that advanced consciousness, which was to be utilized for understanding what I am, what is God, what is this world, what is our next life... These things.

Our advanced consciousness was meant for understanding these things, not for making good arrangement-instead of sleeping on the floor we make very good arrangement, very apartment and very bedstead, nice bedstead and mattresses. You can utilize your intelligence in that way, but that is not the way of solving your problem. We must understand that.

Similarly, eating, sleeping, mating... According to Vedic civilization this eating, sleeping, mating and defending were so organized that every people would get the chance of elevating himself to the transcendental platform. That is Vedic civilization. And one who follows those regulative principles, they are called sadacaraḥ. Just like we have introduced in our Society, you are following also, that we prohibit "No illicit sex life, no intoxication, no meat-eating and no gambling." So these four principles are included in this sadacaraḥ program.

Here it is said that there was a brahmana of the name Ajamila in the town of Kanyakubja. Kanyakubja, I explained last meeting, that city is still existing. That is, the Britishers gave the name of that city as Kanauj. In this city, perfumery business is very famous-still they are existing-and in the district of..., Kanyakubja itself is a district, a very prosperous town, and mostly inhabited by brahmanas. So there was a brahmana of the name Ajamila. This story is narrated here.

But dasi-patiḥ, the purport of describing this dasi-patiḥ means he was living with a prostitute, dasi-patiḥ. A higher class, I mean to say, man, just like the brahmanas, the ksatriyas and the vaisyas, they are counted amongst the higher class of men of the society. And the sūdras are considered as lower class of men. And beyond the sūdras, there are called canḍalas; they have no designation, they are fifth grade. A fourth-grade man is sūdra and the fifth-grade men are canḍalas. So this prostitution was possible amongst the third-grade and fourth-grade persons, or men in the society, not in the higher society.

Higher society... This is Vedic culture. Vedic culture, this man, this Ajamila was a brahmana, but he was..., he became, I mean to say, bad habituated due to association, so he was living with a prostitute. Therefore it is said here dasi-patiḥ. Dasi mean sūdra, and the sūdras were taking the profession of prostitution. The Vedic civilization, we understand that even prostitutes were existing five thousand years or ten thousand years ago.

So that was a part of society. In this way, that man who is not satisfied with his wife, he cannot hunt any other women in the society, but he must go to the prostitute. Therefore a class of men were designated that "You can have this profession," and they were known as prostitutes, or dasis. Not all, but some of them.

So this Ajamila, although he was born of a high-grade brahmana family, but he degraded himself and he was living with a prostitute. Therefore it is clearly stated here, dasi-patiḥ. Dasi-patiḥ means the husband of a prostitute.

He lost the brahminical culture, sadacaraḥ. That I have already explained. This sadacaraḥ means regulative principles. So one who cannot follow these regulative principle, he is called kadacara, or nasta-sadacaraḥ, lost of the sadacaraḥ, good characteristics. Now here the reason is given, nasta-sadacaraḥ dasyaḥ samsarga-dūsitaḥ: because he was associating with a prostitute. The reason is given there.

These things are very important. Now people sometimes ask me that "Swamiji, why you are after marriage?" But that is necessity. Unless you get yourself married, then practically you will be living with a prostitute. And if you live with a prostitute, then all the regulative principles you will not be able to follow, one after another. You will not be... And if you cannot follow the regulative principles then you cannot advance yourself to the transcendental platform, one after another. Therefore we stress that a boy, a brahmacari, who feels that he cannot keep himself, or he cannot pull on the life of celibacy, he can marry himself. But don't indulge in illicit sex life. That will spoil your life. This is very important point.

Here it is clearly stated that this Ajamila, this life history of this brahmana, that he was also leading a brahmacari life. Under his father's guidance..., his father was a rigid brahmana, so this boy was following the principles of rigid regulations, and he was...., he performed the regulative principles of the brahmacari, and then when he was grown up, he was married also.

But one day it so happened that he was passing on the street and one this sūdra, this fourth-class, fourth-grade of men, woman, was on the street embracing another man, and the conjugal love affairs was going on. So this boy, because he was young man, he became attracted, and he came there and he became a victim of that prostitute. This is the sum and substance of this boy.

Now this Vedic civilization is a kind of guard from falling victim to this kadacara, or the irregulative principles of life. But this boy Ajamila-now when I'm speaking of him, he was not at that time boy-but in his early childhood he fell a victim of that prostitute, and he was living with him [her]. Gradually he lost all his brahminical culture and became a most degraded man.

So how he became degraded? That is stated,

His profession was stealing. When a man is in need of money, he does not know the regulative principle; by any way, bring money. So he had a big family along with this prostitute, so..., and he lost his brahminical culture, so he could not execute his profession as a brahmana.

A brahmana is... Suppose there are six kind of earning means for a brahmana. They are called pathana, pathana, yajana, yajana, dana, pratigraha. Six kinds. A brahmana is expected to be very learned scholar, pathana, by reading Vedic scripture and by understanding Vedic scripture. Pathana, pathana. Pathana means teaching others also.

A brahmana should learn himself the Vedic literatures thoroughly, and he should become a teacher for teaching others. Pathana, pathana; yajana, yajana. Yajana, yajana... Yajana means worship, or executing devotional service of the Supreme Lord. That is called yajana. And yajana, yajana means teaching others or inducing others to this process of devotional service. Yajana, yajana.

Dana, pratigraha: and a brahmana is not supposed to accumulate money. According to Indian language, there is a proverb: the brahmana is a beggar even if he gets one lakh of rupees or hundreds thousands of dollars. He remains a beggar. Because even if he gets 100,000 dollar in a day, he should spend it for Krsna. He cannot keep it as his personal bank balance for utilizing it for sense gratification. No. Whatever he gets, he should spend for Krsna. That is called dana. And pratigraha, and because he is keeping himself always helpless, therefore he can accept any charity given to him by others. These are the four principles of living condition of a brahmana.

Similarly the ksatriyas, they have got their living condition. The ksatriyas, they are generally landlord or king, so they can levy tax on the subject. That is their living, eh, livelihood. And the vaisyas, the mercantile, they can make trade, they can take to agriculture and cow keeping. And the sūdras, they are meant for serving all these three higher classes. That is the Vedic division of labor in the society.

So this man, this brahmana, although he was born in a brahmana family-his father was a rigid brahmana, and he was trained up also as a brahmacari-but maya is so strong that in spite of his being so trained up, still he became a victim of a prostitute. Therefore our principles should be that to keep ourselves always strong so that we may not fall victim to the maya. If we actually serious about solving the problems of this birth and death, then we should always be very alert in our execution of this devotional service so that we may not fall a victim to maya, just like this Ajamila fell.

So after becoming a victim to this prostitute he was living by any means, any means, because his association was not very good. So he learned how to steal, how to cheat, how to play gamble and cheat others. These things are stated here, that bandy-aksaiḥ kaitavais. Kaitavais means cheating, and bandy-aksaiḥ means playing on the chessboard. Bandy-aksaiḥ kaitavais cauryair, cauryair means by stealing, by stealing, cauryair. And garhitam vrttim: garhitam means all abominable activities.

Our program, how to become suci, but these men became asuci. They are just the opposite word, non-suci. He was suci, but he became asuci. That is also I have explained many times, that suci haya muci haya yadi krsna bhaje and muci hana suci haya yadi krsna bhaje. These asuci, these are [indistinct]. He was the son of brahmana, he was trained, so somehow or other, but he give up all those practices and therefore he became asuci. This very word is used here, asucir yatayam asa dehinaḥ.

Why he became asuci? Just to maintain this body and the offsprings, or the by-products of this body. We have got by-products of this body, just like children, so simply for maintaining them he became asuci. Of course, this is old story, but at the present moment people do not understand what is asuci and what is suci. What is sinful action or what is righteous activities, they do not distinguish. But the Vedic culture has got a very clear distinction about these asuci and suci activities.

So our Krsna consciousness movement is trying to make people suci, not asuci. We are not after men to continue to his asuci, or impious, activities. No. We are trying to take them from asuci condition to the suci condition. But it is not that. Just like in India, now it is going on that a brahmana born in a brahmana family, although he is asuci, or he is not to the standard characteristics of a brahmana, he is accepted as a brahmana. That was not the system. That was not the system in bygone ages.

Here you see that Ajamila, he lost his brahminical characteristics in association with a prostitute; therefore he is described here as asuci. Asuci, abominable. He..., he is no longer described as suci. Just try to understand. So this, in the modern India, the brahminical culture by birthright is going on, but that is not accepted in the sastras, in the Vedic literatures. Suppose you are born of a brahmana family, so you have got the facilities to make yourself a perfect brahmana. But if you do not do that, and if you fall a victim to maya, then you are no longer suci, you are asuci. These principles should be followed.

Our Krsna consciousness movement is following these principle that according to sastra, according to Vedic literature. Just like in the Bhagavad-gita the Lord says,

"I have created these four divisions of human society, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya and sūdra, varna." Varna. So brahmana ksatriya vaisyas sūdra, so Krsna has created, catur-varnyam maya srstam: "I have created these divisions of human society." How? Guna-karma-vibhagasaḥ. Guna, guna means quality, and karma means action. By division of quality and work, not...

There is no mention of birth. He never mentions that janma-karma-vibhagasaḥ. No. That is not mentioned. Therefore as this man, this Ajamila, born of a brahmana family, became asuci or canḍala, but similarly a man born from a canḍala family, if he follows the regulative principles, he become suci.

That is our mantra. Bahyabhyantaraḥ-suciḥ. Yaḥ smaret punḍarikaksam sa bahyabhyantaraḥ suciḥ [Garuḍa Purana].

If one is engaged always in chanting the holy name of punḍarikaksam, Visnu, Krsna, then he becomes bahya, externally, abhyantaram internally, suci. But if you do not follow the regulative principle, then again you become asuci.

So our request is that those who are trying to advance in this life, don't fall down again to become asuci. Continue to become suci, bahyabhyantaraḥsuciḥ. Bahya means externally you are taking bath, you are cleansing yourselves, you are cutting your hair, nails, and washing your mouth and taking krsna-prasadam. In this way, cleansing your clothings, clean cloth, clean habit, we don't require any luxury. But we must...

These are hygienic principle also to become suci. You haven't got to pay a doctor's fee if you keep yourself suci always, following the hygienic principles. So... Otherwise simply if we become puffed up, that "Oh, I have now become brahmana. I have got now sacred thread. Now let me do whatever I like," then again you become asuci. Punar mūsiko bhava.

You know that story? Punar mūsiko bhava, I have cited several times that if we do not follow the regulative principles... This I have repeated many times, that don't be confident that "Because I have undergone some ceremonies, therefore I am now situated on the secure platform." No. So long we are within this material world the platform is very tottering, just like on the ocean. It is tilting, tilting; a little inattention may capsize the boat. Similarly, the Vedas says that,

This path of spiritual realization is very difficult. It is very difficult. It is exemplified just like a sharpened razor. You are shaving your cheeks with a sharpened razor. That's all right. If you can ply on nicely you get a clean shave, but if you are inattentive, immediately there is blood. Immediately. So we must understand that we are playing with sharpened razor, so we must ply very careful.

These carefulness has been minimized to the lowest point by the grace of Lord Caitanya. In order to become the Vaisnava, or the higher platform, in order to occupy the highest platform of life, Vaisnava, the simple method is that you chant Hare Krsna and follow these regulative principles, four. That's all. This much we must agree; then it is sure then you'll haven't got to fall down like this Ajamila, or asuci.

Then,

Then in this way he was living very nicely. That everyone thinks like that-that "I will not die." Everyone. Yudhisthira Maharaja says, "This is the wonderful thing within this universe." What is that? Ahany ahani gacchantiha yamalayam [Mahabharata, Vana-parva 313.116].

He was asked this question by Yamaraja, "What is the most wonderful thing within this world?" So Yudhisthira Maharaja answered that "The most wonderful thing is that everyone is thinking that he will never die. " That is the most wonderful.

And although death is assured... The idea is that nobody is preparing for death. Death is sure, but nobody is preparing for death. We are making so many preparation for our future protection. We are having life insurance policy, good bank balance, this deed, that deed, so many things, but we are not preparing for our death. This is the most wonderful thing.

So this Ajamila, he was living with that prostitute, and his living condition was stealing, cheating and gambling, and whatever abominable things are there, he was executing. He never thought that time will come when death will take him away and he must be prepared. But he did not do that, so here it is said that in this way he was maintaining his family, but when he was eighty years old, astasityayusaḥ samaḥ. At that time, time came that he was to die, and at that time what he was doing?

Now here is the important point. He had ten sons. Out of the ten sons the youngest one was named as Narayana. This is the significance of his life. This... The parents, especially the father, that is natural-a father, mother becomes very much affectionate to the youngest. Either girl or boy, that is natural, and the eldest; that is psychological. So in this way this Ajamila was very much attached to the youngest son, whose name was Narayana.

So this Narayana, the purpose is..., the purpose of this story is that although he was so much degraded, and although his profession was so abominable, still, because of his attachment to the youngest son, whose name was Narayana, he was always calling, "Narayana, my dear son, please come here," "Narayana, please eat it," "Narayana, please drink it," "Narayana, come to my lap." So indirectly he was citing the name of Narayana.

Therefore it is the custom of Vedic civilization to give the sons and disciples name which is Krsna's name, just like Narayana is Krsna's name. So we, after initiation, we give such name: Krsna dasa atma, that he..., that name is connected with Krsna, so that even if we do not perfect ourself... This calling ourselves amongst ourselves, just like "Dayananda," "Sivananda," in this way-these are all Krsna's name. All the names that we award to this disciple, that is Krsna's name. Krsna has got advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rūpam [Bs 5.33].

He has got ananta incarnations, and ananta name also. And Krsna's name... Just like people say that "How God, that can be there..., can be any name of God?" That is a fact, that how God is named? God is named... Because God has innumerable forms, there cannot be a particular name, but His name is awarded..., not awarded; name is automatically there according to His activities.

Just like Krsna became..., agreed to become the son of Yasoda, so therefore we call Him Yasodanandana. Krsna accepted Nanda Maharaja as His father; therefore we call Nanda-kumara, Krsna's name. Kumara means son, and Nanda Maharaja. In this way Krsna enjoys with Radharani; therefore we call Radha-ramana.

Since Krsna gives pleasure to the cows, therefore we call Govinda. So these names are Krsna's names, but the..., of all name, the "Krsna" name is the prime name. Why it is? The Krsna means all attractive. And Krsna, another meaning of Krsna is that those who are struggling very hard in this material world, Krsna can give them liberation. Krsna..., another meaning of this Krsna is,

Similarly Rama, Rama means pleasure, ramana. So one who gives transcendental pleasure, He is called Rama. So this Krsna name, Rama name is God's name; that is very on the high level. Therefore we chant,

And Hara, Hara also means one who can take away all our miserable condition and gives..., puts us into the transcendental position. This is Hara. So these three names are there, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare-Hara, Krsna and Rama.

So this Ajamila got the benefit of naming his youngest son Narayana. That is the purport of this story, how although he was so much fallen and abominable, simply by dealing with his youngest son, whose name was Narayana, simply by his affection to Narayana, how he got salvation. That is the purport of this story; we shall narrate later on.

Thank you very much.

Devotees: Jaya. All glories... [end]