Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 2.3.8 and Initiations – May 25, 1972, Los Angeles

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Prabhupada: [prema-dhvani] Thank you very much. [devotees offer obeisances] Hmm. So, where is Pradyumna?

Devotee: He's typing.

Prabhupada: Why? One sloka. Yes, you can... Anyone can chant.

[japa] [pause] One verse.

Pradyumna: [leads chanting]

Prabhupada: Where are those books? These small books?

[pause] My spectacle? Nobody's here?

Devotee: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Where is Nanda-kumara? Sleeping? As soon as there is opportunity, sleep. [laughter]

[break] [japa]

Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. One has to conquer over sleeping, eating and sense enjoyment. Nidra, nidra means sleeping. Ahara means eating or collecting more. Collecting. Eating, sleeping and vihara, sense gratification. Vijitau: the Gosvamis, they conquered over that.

Syamasundara: He said he's making kacauris right now.

Prabhupada: Hmm.

No, not this. [leads chanting] [devotees repeat]

Hmm. Repeat, repeat again.

Pradyumna: [leads chanting of sloka] [Prabhupada and devotees repeat]

Prabhupada: Next, anybody? [devotee chants]

That's all right. So, word meaning?

Pradyumna: dharma-arthaḥ-for spiritual advancement; uttama-slokam..., er rajya-kamaḥ-anyone desiring an empire or a kingdom...

Prabhupada: No...

Pradyumna: ...tantuḥ-for offspring; tanvan-and for their protection; pitṝn-the residents of the Pitrloka; yajet-must worship; raksa-kamaḥ-one who desires protection; punya-janan-pious persons; ojaḥ-kamaḥ-one who desires strength should worship; marut-ganan-the demigods.

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Translation: "One should worship Lord Visnu or His devotee for spiritual advancement of knowledge, and for protection of heredity and advancement of the dynasty one should worship the different demigods."

Prabhupada: Hmm. Other line is not translated? Hmm. Then?

Pradyumna: Purport?

Prabhupada: Hm.

Pradyumna: Purport: "The path of religion entails making progress on the path of spiritual advancement, ultimately reviving the eternal relation with Lord Visnu in His impersonal effulgence, localized Paramatma feature and, ultimately, in His personal feature by spiritual advancement of knowledge. And one who wants to establish a good dynasty and be happy in the progress of temporary bodily relations should take shelter of the pitas and the demigods in other pious planets. Such different classes of worshipers of different demigods may ultimately reach the respective planets within the universe, but he who reaches the spiritual planets in the brahma-jyoti achieves the highest perfection."

Prabhupada: That's all right. So, now... [devotees chant japa] [break]

Devotee: [indistinct] water [indistinct]. After every mantra I will chant om apavitraḥ. [leads devotees in chanting]

Prabhupada: The word is abhyantaram. The word is abhyantara. Abhyantara means inside. [japa]

Devotee: [leads devotees in chanting]

Prabhupada: abhyantaram.

Devotee:

Prabhupada: Name [indistinct]. Name? Let me know. [japa] How many?

Syamasundara: Eight.

Prabhupada: Heh?

Syamasundara: Eight.

Prabhupada: Eight. What are the names? [japa]

Jayathirtha: You want them to put on the neckbeads?

Prabhupada: Huh? Yes. Yes. [japa]

Syamasundara: Leonard? Leonard?

Devotee: He's still tying his neckbeads.

Syamasundara: Oh. Lal Krsna.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Syamasundara: Lal Krsna. Lal Krsna dasa.

Prabhupada: [indistinct]

Syamasundara: Lal. L-a-l.

Prabhupada: Lala-krsna. [japa] Where you found this name?

Syamasundara: There is a list of names.

Prabhupada: So you know the rules and regulation? The regulation?

Leonard: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication.

Prabhupada: So your name is Lala-krsna.

Lala-krsna: Bala-krsna?

Prabhupada: Lala. Or Bala-krsna? Lala-krsna is name. You can give them. Next.

Syamasundara: Roger?

Prabhupada: What is the name?

Syamasundara: Raghu-nandana. Raghu-nandana.

Prabhupada: Hmm. You know the rules and regulations? What are they?

Roger: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling and no illicit sex.

Prabhupada: Hmm. How many rounds will you chant?

Roger: Sixteen rounds a day.

Prabhupada: Minimum, Minimum. So your name is Raghu-nandana dasa. Raghu-nandana is Lord Ramacandra's another name.

Syamasundara: Cassandria?

Prabhupada: What is her name?

Syamasundara: Kasama-pida dasi.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Syamasundara: Kasama-pida dasi?

Prabhupada: Kusuma.

Syamasundara: Kusuma-pida dasi. Kusuma-pida dasi.

Prabhupada: Kusuma. So you know the rules and regulation?

Cassandria: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: So your name is Kusuma-priya. Kusuma-priya, "the best of the flowers."

Syamasundara: What is that... Pam?

Prabhupada: What is that?

Syamasundara: Panḍarani dasi. Panḍarani

Prabhupada: Panḍurani?

Syamasundara: Panḍurani.

Prabhupada: So, what are the rules?

Pam: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling.

Prabhupada: How many rounds you shall chant?

Pam: Sixteen.

Prabhupada: So your name is Panḍurani, "Queen of the Panḍus." That means Draupadi.

Syamasundara: John?

Prabhupada: So Draupadi had five husbands. [laughter]

Syamasundara: [to Prabhupada] Dharma-ksetra dasa.

Prabhupada: What are the rules?

John: No eating of meat, fish or eggs, no gambling, no intoxication and no illicit sex.

Prabhupada: Dharma-ksetra dasa. Dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre samaveta yuyutsavaḥ [Bg 1.1].

Dharma-ksetra, "the field of religious activities." Next.

Syamasundara: Patricia. Patri.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Syamasundara: Patri dasi. Patri. Patri dasi

Prabhupada: Patri. Patri. What are the rules?

Patricia: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling or speculation, and no illicit sex life.

Prabhupada: Thank you. So your name is Patri dasi. Su-patri. Patri means a good reservoir. Everything good is there.

Syamasundara: Mary? Manjanali? Manjanali?

Prabhupada: Manj...?

Devotee: One of the principal gopis.

Prabhupada: Manjuali. So, what are the rules?

Mary: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling and no intoxicants.

Prabhupada: Thank you. So, Manjuali. Your name is Manjuali, one of the gopis. Thank you. There is another. Come on. Next.

Syamasundara: Parvati dasi.

Prabhupada: Parvati. So what are the rules?

Parvati: No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling and no intoxication.

Prabhupada: Yes. So your name is Parvati. Parvati, the daughter of Himalaya and wife of Lord Siva. Hare Krsna. So?

Devotees: All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada [devotees offer obeisances]

Prabhupada: Jaya. [end]