Conversation with Guru Dasa – November 12, 1971, Delhi
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Underneath the tree during winter it is warm and during summer it is cold
Prabhupada: The height has been confusing.
Prabhupada: ..but I asked whether there is ventilator he said, "no." The [indistinct] did not know... hoping [break] cheap relief, now they've got a chance [break] [indistinct] It requires some strength in the world [indistinct] again [indistinct] in this way print and selling books and stocking books you will get rich and it will be propagation of the mission and the saṅkirtana movement
[indistinct] but whether we are prepared and [indistinct] philosophy print books and [indistinct] and make that awarding salaries [indistinct] burden [indistinct] books [indistinct] talking, simply talk of philosophy [indistinct] and the Deity room upstairs. They are not interested in the Deities, they are interested in philosophy [indistinct] make this propaganda clear [indistinct] [break] [break] we don't require much [indistinct] downstairs make a lecture room office and for men. [indistinct] Women [indistinct]
Prabhupada: [indistinct] they take care of the Deities and then the downstairs the meeting room. [indistinct] [break] [indistinct] not for money or credit it to me, no [indistinct] and you sell them and get the whole money and make cheap edition, make cheap edition. [indistinct] [break]
Prabhupada: And lamps. And go there and sit down on the floor [indistinct]
Prabhupada: [indistinct] this is the verse [indistinct] preach [indistinct] because this is also [indistinct] [break]
Prabhupada: Bombay we will have more Diety worship. Everywhere... here also Diety worship must go on.
Prabhupada: Schools and colleges it is recommended that this should be read by the college students.
Prabhupada: As soon as they read our books they will come.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Prabhupada: High school, college and government officers. Somehow or another induce them to read our books. We open some [indistinct] [break]. Any sane man will read our books you will find. Because this writing was not [indistinct] even [indistinct] the rascal [indistinct] simply making business and cheating. [indistinct] all our pride actually [indistinct] if somebody can say authoritatively about God that would be, nobody else.
Prabhupada: Nobody.... Nobody has clear idea.... Actually [indistinct] unnecessary joined.
Prabhupada: No.
Prabhupada: No. Because they have no clear idea. Vague idea.
Prabhupada: I don't ask, but to see I don't ask them.
Prabhupada: They will speak of highly post. "Formerly I was not so advanced." Still I've never liked to read this Ramakrishna kind of book or Ravindra Tagore [indistinct] and Gandhi's literature. I don't [indistinct] that was my [indistinct] special protection [indistinct].
Prabhupada: [indistinct] there is only a few books Bhagavatam [indistinct]
Devotee: [indistinct] [break]
Prabhupada: I was thinking of leading a saṅkirtana party provided I get some. At least half a dozen educated [indistinct] [break]
Prabhupada: Or you can make [indistinct]. [break] Intelligent class of people but the Indians they do not come to take it. They come [indistinct] mostly. Make some profit.
Prabhupada: So did you talk with Ramananda?
Prabhupada: One birth... What [indistinct]
Prabhupada: Eh?
Prabhupada: Minibus. Don't stop [?] Then he can [indistinct] travel all over India. With our own camp. India is not so cold.
Brahmananda: No. We can have tent.
Prabhupada: Tents yes.
Brahmananda: Prepare our own prasadam, distribute.
Prabhupada: [indistinct] also and in the evening kirtana.
Prabhupada: ...and you will have no expenditure you will go to village and village as you like..
Prabhupada: If you prepare well.
Prabhupada: Some supplies, milk, rice, wheat, vegetables, ghee. Cook nicely eat and invite [indistinct] many citizens if they like they will come and [indistinct] and kirtana. Marvelous.... And they have already heard about us and when they hear that we are coming [indistinct]
Prabhupada: Only thing is four men should go ahead, one village to bring on[?] [indistinct]... another some men another village he must hand out special leaflets. Or second batch of tents arranged [?] [indistinct].
Prabhupada: And this man goes next. They go next.
Prabhupada: In this way you make nice preparation. Every day new village or a new students. And when [indistinct] take their men travel to the center and go on with saṅkirtana... We have got Hindi books Gita Press we don't require to publish. Gita Press is called Bhagavata dharma but they are sometimes talking nonsense. Still in the village whenever there is question of Bhagavata class, oh hundreds and thousands people.
Prabhupada: Hundreds and thousands of them. [break] there are many temples [break] in the western countries [indistinct]
Prabhupada: We have to fight with these demons, we have [indistinct]
Brahmananda: We had that program in Africa.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Brahmananda: We would go from town to town to town. They would arrange in advance for us and we would just. We didn't even know where we were going, we'd just go. And then we would find out who was in the next town and the next town.
Prabhupada: Already prepared.
Brahmananda: Yes and we didn't have to worry about any. Because they would give us all accommodations.
Prabhupada: The Africans?
Brahmananda: No no the Indians, they would give us accommodation's booked. We would arrange programs for both Africans and Indians. For the Indians we would arrange either in some big man's house or in some temple and for the Africans
[break] halls, they have these halls... Social halls where they meet. And we did every village and we never had a… Spend anything. Our food was… Everyone... Everything was taken care of. And we collected tons of money distributed tons of books.
Prabhupada: Then go on with that. That we need.
Brahmananda: No they would telephone ahead and they would arrange. They would always know the people in the next town who to contact.
Prabhupada: I see. They like it... [break] Half Indians half [indistinct] but there is no good preacher even.... [break]
Brahmananda: Yes, it is very cold.
Prabhupada: Ah.
Prabhupada: [indistinct] because it is made of earth better arrangement [break] well, new well water. [indistinct]
Prabhupada: [indistinct] forest.
Brahmananda: In Mayapur that's where I discovered that in the morning the well water is warm and in the daytime the well water is cold, it is so nice. Not that when you take a bath in the morning the water it is very warm.
Prabhupada: Like underneath the tree during winter it is warm and during summer it is cold. I have seen practically in London in Regent's Park there is a small lake. Everything in it.... What's it called? It becomes... Ice, the water, what's it called?
Brahmananda: Frozen.
Prabhupada: Frozen, yes. The water is frozen but in parts when there is a tree above the water that wasn't frozen. I marked it, that means it gives warmth.
Prabhupada: Except that part everything is frozen but the... Underneath the tree it is not.
Brahmananda: Hm.
Prabhupada: This I have marked whilst walking. Other parts the seagills, seagills?
Prabhupada: They are walking.
Brahmananda: But not in that part?
Prabhupada: That part... It's solid for swimming.
Prabhupada: That means it is warm. During in winter season underneath the tree you can get warm. Therefore under... To live underneath the tree is safe both seasons.
Prabhupada: And rainy season also, the storm, the rain will not keep. Even the leaves will tolerate and give you shelter. In a great storm if you remain underneath the tree you don't feel anything. The tree will do like this [laughs] you remain safe and then if the tree falls down. Generally it does not but sometimes an old tree will displace.
So any amount of wind or storm may go on if you are under the tree you don't feel anything. And if a small canopy underneath the tree will protect you from rain and there rain with full strength cannot, everything falls on the leaves tuk, tak, tuk, tak. On a small canopy.... Nature's way of giving protection not only to the birds, towards the human beings. In Africa when I saw they prepare regular cottage up upon the hill.
Brahmananda: Yes.... Well when we were in Florida, Gargamuni Svami, Visnujana Svami and myself we were sometimes staying in a house in a tree.
Prabhupada: Was it comfortable?
Brahmananda: Well it was a little small [laughs]. But it was nice.
Prabhupada: At night?
Brahmananda: We would sleep there.
Prabhupada: No animals.
Brahmananda: No no one would come.
Prabhupada: Even that animals, tigers cannot get up.
Prabhupada: Snakes may get up.
Brahmananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: Snake or, or other wild animals.
Prabhupada: Yes, there is light they wont.
Prabhupada: Yes, very nice.... And passing urine and stool that is also not difficult.
Brahmananda: [laughs] [break] [end]
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