Room Conversation

July 7, 1977, Vrndavana
Tamala Krsna: Everything was "probably" in their books.
Prabhupada: "Probably," "maybe."
Tamala Krsna: Those are their favorite words. Srila Prabhupada? We're receiving a number of letters now, and these are people who want to get initiated. So up until now, since your becoming ill, we asked them to wait.
Prabhupada: The local, mean, senior sannyasis can do that.
Tamala Krsna: That's what we were doing... I mean, formerly we were... The local GBC, sannyasis, were chanting on their beads, and they were writing to Your Divine Grace, and you were giving a spiritual name. So should that process be resumed, or should we...? I mean one thing is that it's said that the spiritual master takes on the... You know, he takes on the... He has to cleanse the disciple by... So we don't want that you should have to... Your health is not so good, so that should not be... That's why we've been asking everybody to wait. I just want to know if we should continue to wait some more time.
Prabhupada: No, the senior sannyasis...
Tamala Krsna: So they should continue to...
Prabhupada: You can give me a list of sannyasis. I will mark who will...
Tamala Krsna: Okay.
Prabhupada: You can do. Kirtanananda can do. And our Satsvarupa can do. So these three, you can give, begin.
Tamala Krsna: So supposing someone is in America, should they simply write directly to Kirtanananda or Satsvarupa?
Prabhupada: Nearby. Jayatirtha can give.
Tamala Krsna: Jayatirtha.
Prabhupada: Bhavanan..., er, Bhagavan. And he can do also. Harikesa.
Prabhupada: And... Five, six men, you divide who is nearest.
Tamala Krsna: Who is nearest. So persons wouldn't have to write to Your Divine Grace. They could write directly to that person?
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala Krsna: Actually they are initiating the person on Your Divine Grace's behalf. Those persons who are initiated are still your...
Prabhupada: Second initiation we shall think over, second initiation.
Tamala Krsna: This is for first initiation, okay. And for second initiation, for the time being they should...
Prabhupada: No, they have to wait. Second initiation, that should be given...
Tamala Krsna: Should... Some devotees are writing you now for second initiation, and I'm writing them to wait a while because you're not well. So can I continue to tell them that?
Prabhupada: They can do second initiation.
Tamala Krsna: By writing you.
Prabhupada: No. These men.
Tamala Krsna: These men, they can also do second initiation. So there's no need for devotees to write to you for first and second initiation. They can write to the man nearest them. But all these persons are still your disciples. Anybody who gives initiation is doing so on your behalf.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Tamala Krsna: You know that book I'm maintaining of all of your disciples' names? Should I continue that?
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala Krsna: So if someone gives initiation, like Harikesa Maharaja, he should send the person's name to us here and I'll enter it in the book. Okay. Is there someone else in India that you want to do this?
Prabhupada: India, I am here. We shall see. In India, Jayapataka.
Tamala Krsna: Jayapataka Maharaja.
Prabhupada: You are also in India.
Prabhupada: You can note down these names.
Tamala Krsna: Yes, I have them.
Prabhupada: Who are they?
Tamala Krsna: Kirtanananda Maharaja, Satsvarupa Maharaja, Jayatirtha Prabhu, Bhagavan Prabhu, Harikesa Maharaja, Jayapataka Maharaja and Tamala Krsna Maharaja.
Prabhupada: That's nice. Now you distribute.
Tamala Krsna: Seven. There's seven names.
Prabhupada: For the time being, seven names, sufficient. You can make Ramesvara.
Prabhupada: And Hrdayananda.
Tamala Krsna: Oh, yeah. South America.
Prabhupada: So without waiting for me, wherever you consider it is right... That will depend on discretion.
Tamala Krsna: On discretion.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Tamala Krsna: That's for first and second initiations.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala Krsna: Okay. Shall I send a kirtana party, Srila Prabhupada?

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