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Prabhupada: The learned scholars, they used to live in the forest. Vyasadeva was writing in samyaprasa cottage. (chuckling) That is university. And no university can produce such scholar or student, not imperfect. They're all rascals. What are the values of these MA, Ph.D? [break] It is humbug. Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. Actually they're vimudhan. Mudha means rascal and vimudhan means special rascals. (laughs) Maya-sukhaya, for some sense gratification-big, big arrangement. And next life he's going to be a dog. That's all. So Prahlada Maharaja said, "I am thinking of these rascals, vimudhan, especially rascals, that they are arranging so gorgeous thing for material happiness and forgetting their spiritual identity." Soce: "I am simply thinking of these rascals. For me there is no problem." Tato vimukha-cetasah. "Because they are bereft of God consciousness, Krsna consciousness, they are doing, engaged in these big, big projects, although (they) live for twenty years or fifty years utmost, perhaps. And eternal life? They do not know." Vimudhan: "specially rascal." The cats and dogs are rascals, but they are animals. They cannot know anything. But they got this human form of life, and still, they are acting as rascal. Therefore vimudhan, "specially rascal." Manusya-janama paiya, radha-krsna na bhajiya, janiya suniya visa khainu. Such a rascal. [break] ...where charity is given, to be given, give him. That's all. Datavyam. [break] "...by the people, for the people." And what is the people condition? They are naked. They have no good house, no food. And these men, they must have very good bungalow, very good, comfortable life. This is Kali-yuga, means "Plunder the citizens, take money from them, and live comfortably at the cost of the poor citizens."
Gargamuni: Most of these bungalows here are offices. Government offices.
Prabhupada: That I said. They are living very comfortably, and the citizens... We have seen the other day, Cuttack, the marwan (?) shop, congested.
Gurukrpa: Dirty.
Prabhupada: Dirty. Actually they are earning for them. Taxation. They have got law, and they are advertising...
Satsvarupa: "Don't cheat on your tax."
Prabhupada: "Don't cheat..."
Satsvarupa: "Or you'll be persecuted."
Prabhupada: Who is cheating? They're cheating. Just see. They are working hard; they are cheating. And they, by taxation getting money and living very comfortable, they are not cheating.
Gargamuni: They are greater cheaters.
Tulasi dasa has said, "In the Kali-yuga, dudha, milkno customer. And sura, wine-baitale vikara.(?) It is sitting down in one place, and customers are going there: "Give me. Give me one after another, one after..." Sura, wine, is so impure that it should not be touched. That is selling in one place very comfortably. Dudha? Gali gali phire: "Will you take milk? Will you take milk?" Dudha gali gali phire sura baitale vikara, dhanya kali-yuga teri lila. Kali-yuga dhanya tomara.(?) "Your pastime..." Duhkha lage haspar, "I am very sorry, but at the same time, I am laughing." (laughs) "Although I am very sorry, but still, I am laughing." This is Kali-yuga.
And in Vedic civilization, animal is being attempted to be killed"Oh! Who are you?" "Kali-yuga." "Get out!" This is raja, king. And there is nobody to protest. So many animals are being killed. This is Kali-yuga. Why? "They are my subject. You cannot touch." Krsna is embracing gopis and the calves also, not that He has selected only gopis to be embraced. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya [Bg. 14.4]. "Anyone who loves Me... Loves or not, I am protecting." Eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. He's giving protection to everyone. And if he is a devotee, a special protection. This is God, and government means God's representative, God's, not people's representative. Government does not mean people's representative. Government means God's representative. That is government. Rajarsi. Imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. Bhagavad-gita is not meant for the loafer class. It is meant for the rajarsi. Unless the kings and big, big stalwart leaders understand this science, how they will lead? Because these leaders, they do not understand Bhagavad-gita, they make their own plan. Therefore so much catastrophe, chaotic condition. It is meant for the rajarsi. Big, big government officer, big, big kings, presidents, ministers. They should understand it. And government is making law, "No Bhagavad-gita in the school, college," because they do not know the value. [break] ...Kali-yuga. "Kali-yuga, thank you very much." Dhanya kali-yuga teri lila. [break] Thank you.
Gargamuni: Sometimes these professional people accuse us of living at the cost of others.
Prabhupada: Yes. But you are so rascal that you do not know who should be maintained at your cost. Those who are learned scholars, those who can give you good direction, they should be allowed to live very comfortably, without any want. That is Vedic civilization. Brahmanas... Datavyam iti yad danam. Give them charity. All the big, big kings, they used to give charity. Give them cows, give them ornament, give them money, give them gold. Brahmana-bhojana. Invite the brahmanas, give them sumptuous food. They never said, daridra-bhojana, daridra-narayana-bhojana. They never said. And there was no daridra, because the brahmana was there. There was no question of daridra. Why do you pay the lawyers? Why do you say that "These people are living at our cost"? They're charging big, big fees. Why do you pay?
Gurukrpa: Thousands of dollars.
Prabhupada: Why do you pay? One man is earning ten rupees a day, but when there is some case he is paying fifty rupees a day or fifty rupees per standing a lawyer. Why does he pay? No, you say to them that "We are brahmanas. The more you pay us, you'll be benefited." What do they say? That "You are living at the cost of others"?
Gurukrpa: Yes. We are taking from the society.
Satsvarupa: They don't recognize our activity as work, honest work.
Gurukrpa: Think we're cheating. Many people interrupt our book sales, saying "These people are simply taking money."
Prabhupada: Where do they say? In your country?
Gurukrpa: Yes. They come, and they stop the sale: "Don't give him anything. He's cheating."
Prabhupada: Accha?
Gurukrpa: "He's stealing from you." That is a great problem. We lose so many sales because of envious people stopping.
Satsvarupa: They say we're pretending to be a religion just to collect money, but our real aim is just to cheat, false propaganda. (horn beeps)
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