Dhananjaya: We will greet the Deities at seven o'clock this morning, so there will be no delay.

Gopala Krsna: Actually, in America, in nearly all temples, the Deities are greeted at 7 o'clock. [break]

Prabhupada: ...speak, why he is purchasing? They will cheat.

Dhananjaya: He speaks a little Hindi. This is Asita.

Gopala Krsna: Asita. (man talking in Hindi in background)

Prabhupada: Go on. What is the trouble? See. [break]

Dhananjaya: They stop everyone so they can extract taxes from them. They want to stop every single person, even the buffalo carts. [break]

Gopala Krsna: (to life member:) There was no trouble. It's okay now.

Prabhupada: Jaya. Thank you.

Gopala Krsna: He's a life member from Nellore.

Member: Nellore, Andhra Pradesh.

Prabhupada: Thank you.

Gopala Krsna: He has come to live in our temple.

Prabhupada: So he has come?

Gopala Krsna: Yes.

Member: I am very fortunate that Swamiji has come from America. I was inquiring about you all these years. I wanted to come here in April also, when the temple was being opened. At that time I had some work; therefore I couldn't come.

Prabhupada: What you are doing there?

Member: I am retired labor officer in the state government.

Prabhupada: Oh. So you can live here, retired life? Yes. You are welcome.

Member: I'll be staying here for ten days.

Prabhupada: Why ten days? Live here for ten years. (laughter)

Member: If you please, I have no objections.

Prabhupada: No. We want many educated men to understand this philosophy and preach. People are... Whole world, they are in ignorancethe value of life. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke [SB 10.84.13]. They are accepting this body as self. The whole trouble is there. So-called scientist, philosophereveryone is thinking, "I am this body," and therefore there is so much trouble. They do not know what he is and what is his goal of life, how life should be molded. No knowledge. Therefore vigorous preaching is required. Our Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission is that, that all people are suffering. There is little knowledge in India. So anyone who has taken his birth in India, he should make his life perfect by studying this Vedic literature and then spread the knowledge all over the world because they are in ignorance. Here also now they are ignorant. They do not know what is the value of life, thinking like cats and dogs. What is your idea about the value of life?

Member: Unless it is very towards God, it is useless.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Member: Constant thinking of Him, His lotus feet, it is the only way by which we can get the real benefit of getting this human life.

Prabhupada: Yes. And where is that education?

Member: That is real education.

Prabhupada: That is... But where is that education? There is no such education all over the world.

Member: Only great gurus like you can enlighten the whole world. Only very rarely such people come only for the benefit of the people...

Prabhupada: That's all right, but those who are leaders, those who are leading the people, they are not interested. They are misleading.

Member: You can beg them (indistinct) everything nice with you.

Prabhupada: (aside:) Sometimes this side, sometimes that side. Near the head. (about fan?)

Member: I not praising of Swamiji, I think no, so many saints are in India, so many great rsis are there. Nobody were able to propagate or bring this consciousness among the people of the worlds as you did. It is a great credit to India. That is what I feel personally.

Prabhupada: Do you think like that?

Member: Yes, I feel. In the heart of hearts I feel like that. I am very happy to see you and have your blessings. And I think that the whole world will be blessed or be benefited by your presence. I think we must take opportunity of utilizing your service and get benefit. That is what I feel.

Prabhupada: So Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that every Indian should do like that. I am only one Indian. If I can do as, according to your estimate, so much, so if every Indian does like that.

Member: Unless he has been directed by God. He must be ...

Prabhupada: No, God is directing. This is the direction of God.

Member: Only through you they will get that. Only people like you can relate with... It is dormant. The soul is there, and it is in a dormant stage. Unless it is kindled, it cannot have light. People like you can kindle them. And it is really our fortune that we are having Swamiji with us. There was some rsi. Even our Samanja Acarya(?) or his guru, they were not able to carry this outside India. But you are able to, with all your... I think you are... Is it not said that you are an incarnation of God or you are deputy of God, is it?

Prabhupada: (laughs) Don't say like that.

Member: You are deputy of God, and He is making you true. Swamiji will be staying here for another two months?

Prabhupada: Yes. I wish to.

Gopala Krsna: Have you seen that land which has been given to us in Nellore?

Member: Yes, it is very near to me. You see, in Nellore, one lady has donated about ninety acres of land.

Gopala Krsna: With a house.

Member: With a house which will cost nearly four or five lakhs or even more. Very costly. And they also ...

Prabhupada: Which season is good? I shall go there.

Member: Yes, sir. You are welcome.

Gopala Krsna: When is a good time? When is the weather the best?

Member: Best time is September, October. Of course, there will be little rain. In December generally it will be little chill, but not as chill as in the other parts.

Prabhupada: So what is the best season?

Member: Best season, from August to September. That is the best season. And I wish our guruji to visit our temple, Lord of Samhis(?) and you must see.

Prabhupada: Where is that temple?

Member: Lord Venkatesvara temple. That is the richest temple in the whole world.

Prabhupada: Balaji?

Member: Balaji.

Prabhupada: I have seen it.

Member: Oh. When did you?

Prabhupada: I think when...

Member: Last year or...?

Prabhupada: No, two years. A little more than one year. Hm? (everyone talking at once about rain)

Gopala Krsna: It's starting to rain, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: So we shall return?

Gopala Krsna: We can be near the temple...

Member: I think rain will not come. [break]

Prabhupada: (Hindi)

Gopala Krsna: There is one house on that land, isn't there?

Member: Yes, yes, one house on the land. And she wants to dedicate all of the property to the author of that books. That is the will.

Prabhupada: So we shall organize it very nicely.

Member: And our Mahamsa Swami is taking very much interest. He is often coming to Nellore. (Hindi) Last month the land was registered and the registration took place.

Brahmananda: In the name of ISKCON?

Member: ISKCON.

Gopala Krsna: Yes. It's already done.

Prabhupada: So in September let us go there.

Member: And in October you can see about Balaji's festival, ten (seven?) days.

Prabhupada: Oh. It is near?

Member: It is about eighty miles from Nellore.

Prabhupada: Rain is coming?

Devotees: Yes. We've had a lot of rain this last year, Srila Prabhupada. (Heavy wind on microphone) (Sound of heavy rain) [break]

Prabhupada: It was raining? That's it. [break]

Prabhupada: ...parikrama?

Dhananjaya: Yes, Srila Prabhupada. That was to the old Yamuna trail.

Prabhupada: We can go?

Dhananjaya: Yes.

British devotee (1): The Yamuna's only five minutes walk from Raman Reti now, Prabhupada. It's very nice for swimming. [break]

Prabhupada: ...able to walk with us, why you have brought him? It will be strain for him.

Brahmananda: The other day he came on the walk, the first day. [break]

Dhananjaya: The sands of Raman Reti where Krsna and Balarama would enjoy Their pastimes.

Prabhupada: Oh. Therefore we have established Krsna-Balarama temple.

Dhananjaya: The sands are very fine and soft here.

Prabhupada: Sands are always soft. [break] ...old house. [break]

Dhananjaya: ...been all jungle like this at one time.

Prabhupada: Hm? Gardens, not jungle.

Dhananjaya: Not jungle. Forest.

Prabhupada: Yes. Vana means forest. What is this?

Dhananjaya: This is garden.

Prabhupada: Acala-vihara Gosvami. [break]

Dhananjaya: ...and down here where they're growing about two acres of tulasi. They just grow tulasi plants for the temples, for Bankibehari and other temples. The fragrance is so nice.

Prabhupada: Yes. [break] ...built. Nobody living. Only locked.

Dhananjaya: This is where the gardener keeps his tools. [break] ...in there, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Oh, there. [break] Tired. [break] Now you can take him back. (Child crying)

Dhananjaya: Did the Yamuna river used to...

Prabhupada: I do not know.

Dhananjaya: ...flow in this part?

Prabhupada: How this building could be constructed? [break] ...a strong-built wall, and the tree has grown from there.

Dhananjaya: That means it must be very old wall, because now they are not building such strong walls. [break]

Prabhupada: Radhaballabha. [break] Real reminiscence of Vrndavana.

Brahmananda: It's a real what?

Prabhupada: Reminiscence.

Brahmananda: In this area? [break] ...in the Krsna book are like this. [break]

Dhananjaya: It's a colony of birds.

Prabhupada: Babui(?). They create such nest, hanging nest. It is very nice fiber, fabricated. They know the art, simply by beaks. They have no hands. They want... They work only with the beaks, and you see the workmanship. Is our men going?

Dhananjaya: Yes. Because the Yamuna is just close.

Aksayananda: Very close down that way. [break]

Dhananjaya: Very fertile land. [break] ...used for mooring boats. Perhaps it was used for mooring boats when the river was there.

Prabhupada: Yes, it is said that Yamuna was navigable river. Hm?

Brahmananda: I was just wondering how they were mooring boats to this thing.

Prabhupada: It is well.

Devotee (2): There's a frog that lives down there.

Prabhupada: I think we shall return. I am getting tired. But how strongly built it is. You see? What was the mortar? Mortar, it is called? That is Madana Mohana temple. [break] ...also good datuna.(?) They use.

Dhananjaya: What do they use?

Prabhupada: Datuna.(?)

Dhananjaya: For cleaning teeth?

Prabhupada: Yes. It is good... For those who are soft gum, it is good medicine.

Devotee (2): Nim leaves?

Dhananjaya: No, the sticks, twigs. [break]

Brahmananda: ...auspicious to see a calf drinking milk?

Prabhupada: Yes. But there is no milk. (laughter) [break] Somebody should give me daily one fresh nim stem. Ask somebody. [break] Everything you have to do?

Dhananjaya: I can learn from Brahmananda Maharaja. I can learn from Brahmananda how to break it and make it ready.

Brahmananda: No, no. Prabhupada will arrange that. You just bring the branch.

Dhananjaya: All right.

Prabhupada: There are so many nim trees.

Harikesa: You were telling us last year about nim leaves being very good for the stomach.

Prabhupada: Oh, yes.

Harikesa: Would you like some? We can bring you some nim leaves?

Prabhupada: Yes, little paste. I can take.

Harikesa: Mash it in like a nim chutney.

Dhananjaya: Mortar and pestle.

Harikesa: Put anything else in it?

Prabhupada: No. A small pill. It increases appetite. Which way? This way?

Harikesa: This way. [break]

Prabhupada: ...know how to make kichri?

Harikesa: Yes. I made for you in Hawaii.

Prabhupada: Ah. So do it today. Kichri and eggplant, fried, and some vegetables. That's all. I'll take between one, half past one. So begin about...

Harikesa: Twelve-thirty?

Prabhupada: Yes. I shall go this way or that way? Whose, this garden? Where is our temple?

Dhananjaya: Our temple is behind the trees. [break] Two trees in one. One tree is growing out of the other tree.

Prabhupada: Oh. Why they have become two? Not from sentiment, but scientific?

Dhananjaya: The seed must have been deposited in the bark and then taken root.

Prabhupada: Because they are different seed, different tree.

Brahmananda: Individual.

Prabhupada: Huh? Individual. And the specific individuality is there in the seed. Even if you grow together they will come differently.

Brahmananda: Same earth is there, same water, everything same. But the seed is different.

Prabhupada: But they will say "by chance." Chance. (aside:) Hare Krsna.

Harikesa: There is also that phenomenon, they say, "identical twins." When two brothers are born together they say "identical twins."

Dhananjaya: Why does that happen, if there are two brothers who are identically looking the same in features?

Prabhupada: That is not difficult. In the same tree, the same semen.

Dhananjaya: Because the living entity had the same desire? Two living entities having the same desire for the same body?

Prabhupada: Hm. (Hindi) They are going to take water from Yamuna or some from well?

Dhananjaya: From a well. There's just a well around the corner.

Prabhupada: Oh. They are all going to Yamuna. [break]

Dhananjaya: That lady was from Manipur.

Harikesa: Visvambhara lives here. [break]

Prabhupada: ...can... Very nice blackboard.

Brahmananda: Hut! Hut!

Prabhupada: No, just... Why it is thrown away?

Visala: Jaya Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. (end)