Prabhupada: Class must be. Without hearing, everything will be tainted. (knock on door) Yes?

Hamsaduta: Prabhupada, what do you think about the German translation work? I mean...

Prabhupada: It must go on.

Hamsaduta: I know it must go on. But isn't there some way to increase it, to make it go more quickly?

Prabhupada: Yes. Everything should be done quickly. Because we do not know when we shall die. So everything, Krsna consciousness business, should be done as quickly as possible.

Hamsaduta: I mean in that respect... see, everything must go through Mandalibhadra's hands. Before it can be printed, everything has to go through his hands because he is the chief translator. But at the present moment it's going so slowly that... We haven't even been able to produce the magazine.

Prabhupada: So find out somebody else.

Hamsaduta: Well, that's my proposal. Or make a different arrangement. But one arrangement I proposed was to pay him some money.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Hamsaduta: I proposed that we pay him some money so that he can do it full time instead of...

Prabhupada: So yes, you can do.

Hamsaduta: Is that okay?

Prabhupada: Yes. He's a grhastha. If he needs some money...

Hamsaduta: Cause right now he's working full time, eight hours and day and still he's...

Prabhupada: That's all right.

Hamsaduta: So if that's okay.

Prabhupada: If he requires some money, give him. What can be done? That is not unusual. A grhastha, he requires some money.

Hamsaduta: Yes, I understand. I just wanted to know if it was acceptable.

Prabhupada: No, no. Why not acceptable? No. Yes. Yes. That's all right. Let him take. We are paying Hayagriva also. What can be done?

Hamsaduta: And another thing I wanted to ask you about, Prabhupada, is that Mandalibhadra, he wants to make your literature perfect, which is natural because we want to make the nicest presentation. But the devotees are saying that the translation... For instance, this Easy Journey to Other Planets, has been in the process so long, it has so many times been reworked, that it's no longer palatable to them. They don't even read it. They'd rather have the English version. So I know that Your Divine Grace has said you have full faith in his ability to do the work...

Prabhupada: No, no. If you... you find out somebody else. He can also do.

Hamsaduta: Because my opinion is that he's becoming overworked, it's becoming strained, so much so that we're not even able to bring it to the printer because he insists on making every time more and more corrections.

Prabhupada: (chuckles) It never comes to perfection.

Hamsaduta: It never comes to perfection. It can, you know. For instance, this little booklet, Easy Journey to Other Planets, one of the things that has been holding it up is because the diacritic marks, to get the diacritic marks in there perfectly... We took it to a professional composer. Of course, they're not experienced, so they didn't, at first they didn't want to do it and then... At any rate, my opinion was first let us print it without the diacritic marks, and then the second edition make it with diacritic marks. Improve it by editions rather than wait until it's completely perfect before we put it on the market because...

Prabhupada: But if once it is made perfect, then it will be easier to print more and more.

Hamsaduta: That's true, but see, what has happened is the entire sum has been lost...

Prabhupada: He could not finish any one?

Hamsaduta: No, not even the magazine was finished. The magazine before this recent one, I put it together myself from old magazines.

Prabhupada: There are so many German students. They cannot do?

Hamsaduta: They can do, but the thing is that you have said that he is the chief and unless it goes through him, it can't be printed.

Prabhupada: No. No, no. No, no. No, no.

Hamsaduta: Everything is bottle-necked around him.

Prabhupada: Now, the important subject, he may do slowly, but...

Hamsaduta: Like Bhagavad-gita or Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Prabhupada: Yes. Others may be done by others. You print it. Even there is some mistake, that doesn't matter.

Hamsaduta: Yes. And another thing I wanted to ask Your Divine Grace is this. This Bhagavad-gita, I would like to print it as it becomes finished chapter by chapter. Otherwise it will be a long time before we have a book.

Prabhupada: No, no, you can publish, chapter by chapter.

Hamsaduta: This is all right?

Prabhupada: Oh yes.

Hamsaduta: Because these German people, they have to have books.

Prabhupada: No, no. You give them chapter by chapter. That's all. We should use our intelligence. You give something, full. So chapter by..., introduction, chapter by chapter, like that. And others may also translate, which is not very intelligent. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna... So do like that.

Hamsaduta: Yes. [break]

Pradyumna: They have some of our philosophy. [break]

Bhagavan: ...who has finally approved it, to see if it was up to standard.

Hamsaduta: Well it reminds me of Janardana. You know Janardana was a big scholar and he was very intelligent, but he never produced very much. You remember Janardana? So Mandalibhadra is working full time. He never comes to the temple. Of course, he lives far away, but he never comes to the temple. And I know when a person doesn't come to the temple, it's very difficult for him to maintain, especially if he maintains a full time job. It has an imperceptible effect on your consciousness. And he also, you know, we sometimes, we don't see very much eye to eye. Like for instance, this coming Back to Godhead he wanted to produce, he wanted to put a picture of some of the... Like there's a picture in one of the old Back to Godheads of Vrndavana. So I said, "This picture is not good because Krsna is not in this picture. There's no Krsna. We must have..."

Prabhupada: Old Vrndavana?

Hamsaduta: Yes, some buildings. Like Jaya Govinda used to write those articles, you remember? He used to write articles...

Prabhupada: Comic?

Hamsaduta: No, no, not comics. He would take some pictures of the scenery of Vrndavana, like the Yamuna or some of the temples, like Madana-Mohana temple, like that. So I said, "We must have a picture of Krsna or a devotee or Prabhupada. It can't be without some activity, some form, because people will not understand what it is. It may be very nice for us." So I feel that he has to either associate more with the temple or he must be paid some money so that he can work full time and... Some change must be made.

Prabhupada: No you pay and... You pay him money, and he must come. Both things should be done. He must come.

Hamsaduta: Right. He should have a lot of association with devotees.

Prabhupada: Without association, it will be whim.

Hamsaduta: It's essential. Otherwise he'll become dry and... I mean that's what I fear.

Prabhupada: I shall write to him.

Hamsaduta: He may also come to visit you.

Prabhupada: Then I will advise.

Hamsaduta: He may. I don't know. He's also having a little, even though he's working, having a little money problem. And another thing I want to ask Your Divine Grace: We have not invited you to Germany because I thought that I didn't want to impose on your time because your time is very valuable, but if you'd like to come to Germany, we can arrange a program for you in Heidelburg, and there, Pradyumna says, there are some big professors there that are important. If you like to come there, it's not that...

Prabhupada: If you can arrange a meeting amongst the scholars.

Hamsaduta: Some scholars.

Prabhupada: But another thing is that I do not know German language.

Pradyumna: They all speak English.

Hamsaduta: They generally speak English very well. Generally, they all know English.

Prabhupada: Then if some scholars' and philosophers' meeting is going on that will be nice.

Hamsaduta: Then I will try to do that. What about a meeting in the biggest hall of Heidelburg? Would you also be interested in that?

Prabhupada: But I will have to speak in English.

Hamsaduta: Yes. They know English. This city is especially English. They, practically everyone knows English. Very, very, many people from America are always there. Especially the younger people, they all know English. It's a center for...

Pradyumna: It's the best German university. The most famous German university is there.

Hamsaduta: And Sivananda. Shall Sivananda come here to see you? He wants to know about his taking sannyasa. He can either go to Paris and meet you there or he can come here.

Prabhupada: He cannot go to Paris?

Hamsaduta: He can go to Paris and meet you there. The Hamburg devotees will meet you in Paris. They will not come to the festival because it's very complicated for us to come here and expensive. So they will... And Sivananda can also go to Paris or he can come here.

Prabhupada: If it is possible, come here, join this festival.

Hamsaduta: Yes. I'll let him know that.

Devotee: Also the Olympic games are held in Germany this year. There will be people from all over the world.

Prabhupada: Games?

Devotee: The Olympic games.

Hamsaduta: Sport.

Prabhupada: Oh yes.

Hamsaduta: A big sport festival in Munchen. [break] And so we have some girls and they have asked us, they want to be married. What is our position?

Prabhupada: Be married legally first.

Hamsaduta: Legally. And they will be living outside the temple for sure. Is that correct, Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Hamsaduta: And with a job and like that.

Prabhupada: No, they can live in the temple...

Hamsaduta: But they will live separate .

Prabhupada: Yes.

Hamsaduta: Then what is the use of getting married? (end)