"Sri Suta Gosvami said: Hearing this from the Personality of Godhead, Arjuna touched water for purification, and after circumambulating Lord Sri Krsna, he cast his brahmastra weapon to counteract the other one."

So when there is no material obstacles, then the spiritual world can be utilized for any purpose. Here, because we are covered with the material body... There are two energies, it is described in the Bhagavad-gita: material energy and spiritual energy. Bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh kham mano buddhir eva ca [Bg. 7.4]. This is material energy. And Krsna says apareyam; this is inferior. Apara. Itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param. There is another, superior energy. What is that superior energy? Living. It is not dead. Jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg. 7.5]. Without spiritual energy, this whole universe is useless, anywhere you go. The modern scientists, they are going toso-calledthey are going to this planet, that planet. And they do not find any spiritual energy. They simply see the material energy-sand and rocks. That cannot be. Because... They can bluff because people are not aware of the whole science. They can bluff. In this material world there are two energies working: material and spiritual. There cannot be only material. There must be spiritual energy. So they say that there is no life, that means there is no spiritual energy. It cannot be accepted. It cannot be. It is out of question. Because here we find jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg. 7.5]. There must be living entity who is conducting this material energy. This body is very beautiful, very useful. Why? Because the spiritual energy, the soul, is there. Otherwise, it has no value. So when there is a planet, when there are other things, how it has developed? This is a reasoning. This is sense. Because the material energy cannot develop without spiritual energy. Jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat. There cannot be anything material without spiritual energy. What is this body? How this body came into existence? Because the spiritual energy, the soul, is there. A dead child born, it will not grow because the spiritual energy is not there. So it has to be concluded that as soon as there is material, a manifestation of the material energy, there must be spiritual energy. It cannot...

In the Bhagavad-gita it is clearly said that this whole cosmic manifestation is combination of material energy and spiritual energy. So therefore in the Vedas... Veda means knowledge, vetti veda vido jnane. In the Sanskrit verb vid, vid-dhatu. Vid-dhatu means knowledge, "to know." Vetti veda vido jnane vinte vid vicarana(?). Labhe vindati vindate. So vid-dhatu. From vid-dhatu the Veda has come. Veda means knowledge. So from the Vedas you can have all different types of knowledge, namely material knowledge and spiritual knowledge, both, perfectly. Because we have now forgotten our spiritual energy, we do not cultivate spiritual energy; therefore the Veda is there. In the Caitanya-caritamrta, in simple Bengali language, it is said, anadi-bahirmukha jiva krsna bhuli' gela, ataeva krsna veda-purana karila [Cc. Madhya 20.117]. Because these rascals, anadi-bahirmukha, do not know. (bird chirping in background) Just like this bird chirping, but he does not know what he is, wherefrom he is coming, where to gonothing. That is low-grade life. So we are now forgetful of our spiritual energy, and because we do not know spiritual energy. Therefore we have no knowledge of God. This is our position, and it is coming since very, very, very, very, long time. Time immemorial. Therefore the Vedas are there. Anadi-bahirmukha jiva krsna bhuli' gela, ataeva krsna veda-purana karila(?)

So we have to utilize the Veda-purana. The Veda-purana is here in India. It is not for India; it is meant for the whole universe. But still, it is available in India. That is India's special position. Indian civilization is not very much interested with the four-wheel civilization. India is interested in spiritual cultivation, Veda-purana. So this science as it is mentioned here, unnaddham astra-jnah, so Arjuna was expert in military science, and still, he was a devotee. It is not that only a brahmana with very clean cloth and clean habit, satya-saucabhyam... Brahmana's first qualification is truthfulness and cleanliness, satya-saucabhyam. This is the first qualification. Samo damas titiksa arjavam, jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam [Bg. 18.42]. Tyagena satya-saucabhyam yamena niyamena va. So this is brahminical qualification. But there are others also. A ksatriya, he is expert in the military science, how to kill. So the killing art is there. You cannot make it null and void by advocating nonviolence. No. That is required. Violence is also a part of the society. Just like here is some itching sensation. This is violence. That is required for the comfort. So similarly, Arjuna was ksatriya. He knew the art of killing, and still, Krsna is... Krsna also, He appeared as a ksatriya in the dynasty of ksatriyas. Vasudeva, son of Vasudeva. He also knew the art of killing. That is also one of the part of His business. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata [Bg. 4.7], paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. So vinasa-requires violence.

So we cannot decry violence. That is also required. Krsna was speaking Bhagavad-gita, the science of God, in the battlefield of Kuruksetra. We cannot condemn violence. That is not possible. But there is no violence in the spiritual world. That is a fact. Violence is only in the material world. Therefore when Krsna desired to fight... Because all desires are coming from Him, janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Anything that we have got experience, everything is there in God. Therefore He's God. Not that minus something. Nothing minus. Everything. Akhila-rasamrta-sindhu. Raso vai sah. These are the Vedic injunctions. He is the reservoir of all rasa, humor or mellow. So this is also a mellow. Sometimes cruel men, they take pleasure by killing. I've seen it. One hotel man was cutting the throat of one chicken, half-cut, and it was throbbing, jumping. His child was crying because he could not see such horrible thing. And the man, the hotel man, he was laughing and pacifying the child, "Why you are crying? Just see how he's throbbing, how he's jumping." So one subject matter, the rasa is different. Humor is different. He's one, (?) enjoying one rasa, the father, and the child is crying. That is also another rasa. So the whole world is full of rasa. Adi-rasa. The sex life is called adi-rasa. There is bibhatsa-rasa, hasya-rasa, karuna-rasa, madhurya-rasa, vatsalya-rasa, sakhya-rasa, santa-rasa. There are so many rasas-twelve rasas. Anaya(?) vyatireka, adi-rasa. So janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has described this adi from adi-rasa. Adi-rasa means the conjugal love. That is called adi-rasa. So janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Wherefrom the adi-rasa comes? The attraction between man and woman, that is a fact. The attraction is there in everywhere, either human society or animal society or bird society, bee society, the attraction is there. Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam [SB 5.5.8]. This whole world is existing on mithuni-bhava, sex. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. These things are there. So wherefrom it comes, this adi-rasa? Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has described in his comment on Srimad-Bhagavatam, in the beginning, that Krsna is the origin of adi-rasa, janmady asya [SB 1.1.1]. From there, this adi-rasa is generated. That is Radha-Krsna. So everything is there. Otherwise, imperfectness. So as there is adi-rasa, Krsna is enjoying with the gopis and Radharani. Similarly, He enjoys with bibhatsa-rasa, vira-rasa, killing. Killing is also vira-rasa. Because He is the reservoir of all rasas. So janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. So do not think that this violence or fighting is bad. No. Nothing is bad when it is utilized for Krsna. And nothing is good when it is utilized for your sense gratification. Everything is bad.

So here Krsna ordered that this is brahmastra. He could not understand that intolerable temperature, heat, and Arjuna inquired, "Wherefrom the heat is coming?" So Krsna informed him that "This is due to brahmastra released by Asvatthama. This rascal does not know how to counteract it." Naivasau veda samharam. "He does not know." Formerly, in the military science, you have released one kind of arrow. If I am expert, then I can release another arrow which will counteract your arrow. Naivasau veda samharam. It is called samharam. So Asvatthama released that brahmastra. Now Krsna advised Arjuna that "You release this samharastra," how to counteract. Unnaddham astra-jnah. Unnaddham: "You know better than him how to counteract." Hy astra-tejasa: "By another..." [break] ...different astras are released by different expert military men. So that science is not yet discovered. By mantra. Just like here it is said that he took water, apah. Sprstvapas tam parikramya. Apah. Just like we take, om apavitrah pavitro va sarvasvastham gato 'pi va. Similarly, mantra and water can be utilized for very, very important purpose. Simply mantra and water. So this is the science. This is called subtle science, not gross. They have discovered this atomic weaponthey require so many chemicals. But when you come to the higher stage, subtle, then mantra and water will do. Nothing more. No more chemicals. Simply mantra and water. That is yet you have to learn.

But these things are there in the Vedas. If you are a serious student of Veda you can also learn, you can also fight like Arjuna. There is no difficulty. Therefore Krsna says astra-jnah. Unnaddham astra-jnah. You can also become learned in the higher science of military art. You can also utilize. But that requires brain, good brain. That is not possible now, because the culture is lost. Now everyone is sudra. Nobody is ksatriya, nobody is brahmana. By the time... Kalau sudra sambhava. The sudras cannot learn all these veda. Because sudras have no right to understand Vedic knowledge. It is meant for the brahmanas, ksatriyas. Even not for the vaisyas. Striyo vaisyas tatha sudrah. They are rejected, woman and vaisya and sudra. Krsna says. Striyo vaisyas tatha sudrah. But Krsna says te 'pi yanti param gatim: "Even woman, and sudra and vaisyas, low grade, they can also get param gatim, promotion to the transcendental world." How? Mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah [Bg. 9.32]. If you take to Krsna consciousness, then even these low-grade born persons, beginning from striya sudra vaisya, and down, candalas... Candalas means less than the candala. Kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasah. They are candalas. Kirata means the black clan, or the Africans. So they are called kirata. Hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah [SB 2.4.18]. Yavanas, khasadaya, Mongolians, without any moustaches. Kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah ye 'nye ca papah. "Even there are still more low-grade, sinful society," ye 'nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah, "if he takes the shelter of a pure devotee, sudhyanti, becomes purified." Becomes purified. How? Sudhyanti? Because prabhavisnave namah. Lord Visnu has got so exalted power that through His devotee He can purify anyone. Never mind, even one happens to be candala, and what to speak of others. Kim punar brahmanah punya bhakta rajarsayas tatha [Bg. 9.33]. If they can be delivered, then what to speak those who are brahmanas. Brahmana means punya. Without having background of pious activities, nobody can take birth in rich family, in brahmana family. Nobody can become highly learned person, nobody can become beautiful. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sri [SB 1.8.26]. They're the action, reaction of punya. And just the opposite is papa. So everyonethere is no question of papi or punyaif anyone takes shelter of Krsna, mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah [Bg. 9.32], it doesn't matter. Everyone can be elevated to the transcendental position of Krsna consciousness.

So this movement is there. Take advantage of it and elevate your life and finish the material trouble. Duhkhalayam asasvatam [Bg. 8.15]. It is only simply full of miseries and temporary. This business must be stopped. And yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama: [Bg. 15.6] simply by going back to home, back to Godhead, your all problems of life will be solved.

Thank you very much. (end)