Heidezger
Heidezger
Heidegger, Martin (Syamasundara)
Prabhupada:. ...sattva-guna, in the modes of goodness they'll be elevated to the higher planetary systems:
Those who are, I mean to say, impregnated with passion, they will remain in the middle planetary systems and: jaghanya-guna-vrtti-stha. Those whose behavior is most abominable, they will go down:
Tamasaḥ. So one who knows that after death we have we have got three destination-higher, middle or lower, so they are trying for something. Although they have no information, "What is my next life?" So what he will do? He is blind: andha yathandhair upaniyamanas [SB. 7.5.31], just like ordinary men, they do not know. So what is there? They are dying for their country but after death which country he is going, he does not know. In this life he has spoiled his life under false enthusiasm, "I am Pakistani, I am dying for my Pakistan." He is dying for Hindustan, but after death whether he is going to Pakistan or Hindustan or Gorastan or Janmastan, that he does not know.
Syamasundara: He says that, "each person has a feeling of indebtedness, every person in existence has a feeling of indebtedness or guilt."
Prabhupada: Yes. That is...
Syamasundara: That to be human means to feel guilty.
Prabhupada: Guilty?
Syamasundara: Guilty.
Prabhupada: Why guilty? Unless he is guilty why he should feel guilty? We are not guilty.
Syamasundara: He says, "because a man always has a feeling that he should be doing something else than what he is doing."
Prabhupada: So he should stop doing anything? Does he mean? Shall he stop doing anything?
Syamasundara: No.
Prabhupada: Become dead stone? What is that?
Syamasundara: But whatever he does, he says, "there is always the feeling that he has missed some alternatives… to..."
Prabhupada: Eh?
Syamasundara: That he has... Whatever…
Prabhupada: No.
Syamasundara:. …he chooses to do, he has the feeling that he has missed another way to do it better or to improve or in so many ways.
Prabhupada: No, therefore guidance required, "This is good, this is bad." Just like physician says, "Do this, do not do this. You eat this, you do not eat this." So there are some do's and some do-not's. So one must know what are the do-not's, what are the do's, then he has no anxiety. One who does not know what are the do's and what are the do-not's, he is puzzled, andha, and if he is guided by another andha then there is no escape. Both of them fall down in the ditch.
Baddhaḥ, "condition." So what is his philosophy?
Syamasundara: Well it ends up rather vaguely that despite all the stress, guilt, nothingness, impending death, the individual must push onwards towards a future, to authentic existence.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Syamasundara: This is all.
Prabhupada: So he must know what is the authentic existence?
Syamasundara: Actually this, this book has not treated him very carefully. His, his philosophy has been, not very well put here in this book, so.
Prabhupada: Well unless the philosophy is good how it can be put into clear vision?
Syamasundara:. Yeah.
Prabhupada:.The philosophy itself is vague. [chuckles] So how one will understand?
Syamasundara: Well most of his writing is in German and very little has been translated into English yet. So this person has not, does not have access to most of his latest works. But later on he became...
Prabhupada: He becomes so, if it is therefore, if the parampara is lost then the thing is lost. Just like…, there is a story like that. Hm. One man says about glorifying our milk. So he had no experience, what is milk. So the man explains, "The milk is as white as a duck."
Syamasundara: [laughs]
Prabhupada: So, "Oh it is so white? [indistinct] What is that duck?" [indistinct] If you have not seen duck, "duck, his neck is like this." "So what it is like?" It is like a, what is that?
Syamasundara: Cane?
Prabhupada: No, no. The, the instrument by which the...
Devotee: Drum.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Devotee: Violin?
Syamasundara: Instrument by which what?
Prabhupada: That a…, knife [?] What is called? It has got a... For cutting [indistinct]
Syamasundara: Machete?
Prabhupada: Cut?
Indian Devotee: For cutting grass?
Prabhupada: Not grass, I mean to say dhūma, dhūma. [?] [wheat]
Devotee:. Sickle?
Indian Devotee: Sickle?
Prabhupada: Cut this? Sickle. So he gave example, "It is like sickle." Then he tasted sickle and his tongue become cut. "Oh milk is so bad, it cuts. It cuts." First of all white, what kind of white? It is like this and it is like this. Just like, what is that instrument?
Syamasundara: Sickle.
Prabhupada: So he wanted to taste the sickle [laughter] and get the taste of milk. This is going on.
Syamasundara: This, this Heidegger actually claims to be...
Prabhupada: And God, God, "What is God?", "God is great" "How great?" "All pervasive." "Oh what kind of all-pervasive?" "As in sky." Then taste sky and there is no taste.
Syamasundara: [laughs]
Prabhupada: Impersonalist, yes. Sky is all-pervading and when he comes to sky he does not taste, he cannot see then lost, everything is lost. This is going on, therefore, "God is zero."
Syamasundara: This Heidegger actually claims to be a theist, believing in God, but it is not brought out in this person's outline.
Prabhupada: They do not know, you do, perhaps you do not know. What is theist and atheist? Theist is one who believes in authority, then he is called a theist.
Syamasundara: Ah.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: Eh?
Devotee: He believes in all religions?
Prabhupada: No, no.
Devotee 2: Authority.
Prabhupada:. Authority. Just like we believe in Krsna, we are theist. Krsna is accepted authority by everyone, by the acaryas, I don't speak of ordinary men. Just like Sahkaracarya, Madhvacarya, Caitanya, all big, big acaryas, stalwart acaryas, those who are accepted, those who have got books. Ah, all authoritative books. They have accepted Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So one who believes in the statement of the acarya, in the sastra, he is called theist. One who does not believe in the sastra, he comments in his own way, he thinks it is something, ordinary writing, "Let me comment in my own way," he is atheist. This is the difference between atheist. Just like we call the Buddhists as atheist. Why? Because Buddha said, "I don't care for your Vedas." Simply for this word: nindasi yajna-vidher ahaha sruti-jatam [Dasavatara-stotra 9], sruti-jatam, sruti means Vedas. In the Vedas there, there is prescription of animal killing, just to test the mantra of the Vedas. So Lord Buddha preached ahimsa, no animal killing. So this so-called followers of the Vedas, they gave evidence where, "In the Vedas it is said that animals should be killed. Why you are preaching in that way?" So these rascals, they did not know what is Vedas, but they tried to. Just like there are so many rascals, they say, "We are simply follower of Vedas." Veda-vada-rataḥ partha [Bg. 2.42], veda-vada-rataḥ. Just like the arya-samajas, they say, "We simply accept Vedas," they do not know a single word of Vedas.
Syamasundara: [laughs]
Prabhupada: You see? So these kind of followers wanted to talk with Lord Buddha. He wanted to stop animal killing and they wanted to talk, "Well here it is, in the Vedas." So what can be said? "I don't care for your Vedas. This is my principle, if you like you can accept." Because he did not, he said that, "I don't care for your Vedas," therefore he become atheist. Veda na maniya bauddha haya ta' nastika [Cc. Madhya 6.168]. But, and because his mission was to establish Vedas. Yes, ahimsa. Aye, aye…[laughs] Aye, aye... Now you can stop.
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