Now this... What is the difference between the two? Those who are eternally free, liberated, they are godly. They are always ready to render transcendental loving service to the Lord. They are satisfied in that way. Just like mother is satisfied simply by loving child, or friend is satisfied simply by loving. Of course, that sort of love is not possible in this material world, but there are some rare instances. At least we can get an idea that... Similarly, the eternal liberated souls, they are satisfied simply by loving Krsna. That is their satisfaction. Everyone wants to love. That is natural propensity. Everyone. When there is no loving object, then in this material world we sometimes love cats and dogs. You see? Because I must love somebody. If I don't find any suitable person lovable, then I turn my love to some hobby, to some animal, like that, because the love is there. So this is dormant. Our love for Krsna is dormant. It is within us, but because we have no information of Krsna, therefore we are reposing our love to something which is frustration. That is not the object of love. Therefore we are frustrated. So many instances we have got, we did not describe. But here in this material world, love is 99.9% all frustration, because the love is not reposed to the proper place. The proper place is Krsna. If we love Krsna, then we can love everyone. Just like if we pour water on the root of the tree then the other parts of the tree, leaves and flowers and fruits and branches, automatically... So if we learn to love Krsna, then we can perfectly love others.

So those who are eternally liberated, they love Krsna. Therefore they are perfect in the spiritual world. 'Nitya-mukta'-nitya krsna-carane unmukha, 'krsna-parisada' nama. They are all associates. The Supreme Lord is person, and His innumerable lovers, living entities, they are also individual persons. Love means there is person, individual. Without individual person, there is no question of love. When I, when the word "love" is used, there must be two lovers. Then the word is applicable, love. If there is no person, love is not with the air. There must be person. So the Supreme Lord is person, and the lovers, the living entities, they are also persons. They forget who is God, who is not God, but the central focus is in Krsna. Everyone loves Krsna. Without seeing Krsna they are mad. This is the position in the spiritual world. Simply love Krsna, that's all. Bhunje seva-sukha. And by loving, as we have got a little perverted experience of love affairs, so just imagine when that love is pure and true, how much pleasure there is. So that thing is there in the spiritual world, pure love. And object is Krsna. Therefore they are so much in bliss... That is bliss. That is bliss, sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1], eternal love with knowledge that "Here is Krsna," and anandamayo 'bhyasat (Vedanta-sutra 1.1.12). That is perfect stage, lovable object eternal, lover eternal, with knowledge, with eternal life. That is there. In the spiritual world this is going on. They're all in bliss.

Now, so far we are concerned, the conditioned soul, 'nitya-bandha'-krsna haite nitya-bahirmukha: our business is to hate Krsna, that's all. "What is God? Huh! God. The foolish people are assembled speaking of God." Nitya. They are... Naturally, they are haters of God in this conditioned life. Just the opposite. In the spiritual world, they are by nature... By nature, we are lover of God, but here, being illusioned, we think God as our enemy and we don't like God. We like this maya. So

So generally people are so much ignorant that they cannot understand their miserable condition. This is called samsara. Samsara means entanglement in these miserable conditions of material existence. And bhunje narakadi duhkha. By miserable condition we want to compensate this miserable condition. But due to our ignorance we become more and more miserable and, narakadi-duhkha, the hellish life. Nana yoni brahman kare, kadarya bhaksana kare, tara janma adho pate yaya. We are circumambulating various types of species of life and eating all sorts of nasty things, and this is the condition of material existence. Narakadi duhkha. Narakadi duhkha means hellish condition. But we do not understand. This is our ignorance. Hellish condition.

So the demons... Demons means their characteristic: to challenge the existence of God. And therefore this prakrti, nature, is piercing, the trident. The trident means threefold miseries: miseries pertaining to the body, pertaining to the mind... Just like yesterday night you had some trouble due to the body. So sometimes mind: "Oh, today I am not very good mood. There is something wrong." The body is all right, but the mind is not all right. This is called adhyatmika. Then adhibhautika. Adhibhautika means miseries offered by other living entities. Just like at night, bedbugs. (laughter) (laughs) So, very nice situation, whole night there is no sleep. Why? Now there is adhibhautika. Adhibhautika. Or some enemy. This is... There are... These are all miseries, but we forget. And adhidaivika. Adhidaivika. Just like heavy snowfall, severe cold, severe heat, earthquake, famine, war. These are adhidaivika, forced by you by superior power. Nobody wants war, but it is forced. These are called adhidaivika miseries. So three kinds. Here it is stated, adhyatmikadi tapa-traya tare. So we are under the control of this material nature, and that trident is pierced on my chest. How can I understand? Now this trident I am experiencing every moment. These three kinds of miseries are there. Either this or that or three or two or onemust be there. Must be there. So those who are, I mean to say, enlightened, they can understand that we are miserable. We are in a miserable condition. And those who are not enlightened, in ignorance, they think, "Oh, this is all right. Don't care for it."

But actually we are in miserable condition.

Then? What is next? Krsna-bhakti paya, tabe krsna-nikata yaya. Then his beginning of Krsna consciousness is there. Krsna consciousness begins from there. If by chance, in this way... Just like the football is being kicked. Some way or other, if he goes out of the line the kicking is stopped. Similarly, we also, if we get the shelter and association of a bona fide saintly person, then this business of being kicked by lust and anger is stopped by his instruction, by his advice. Santa chindanti asya mano-vyasangam ukti. The whole trouble is in the mind. Mind. Just like there is a knot. So knot is to be cut or it is to be opened. So this mental knot with this material attraction is cut by the instruction of saintly persons. The cutting weapon is instruction. Therefore one should take advantage of the instruction of saintly persons so that the knot of material attachment may be cut and the Krsna consciousness may begin, so that his path of liberation is open.

Thank you very much. (end)