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Among all the living entities wandering throughout the universe, one who is most fortunate comes in contact with a representative of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and thus gets the opportunity to execute devotional service. Those who are sincerely seeking the favor of Krsna come in contact with a guru, a bona fide representative of Krsna. The Mayavadis indulging in mental speculation and the karmis desiring the results of their actions cannot become gurus. A guru must be a direct representative of Krsna who distributes the instructions of Krsna without any change. Thus only the most fortunate persons come in contact with the guru. As confirmed in the Vedic literatures, tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet: one has to search out a guru to understand the affairs of the spiritual world. Srimad-Bhagavatam also confirms this point. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuḥ sreya uttamam: one who is very interested in understanding the activities in the spiritual world must search out a guru-a bona fide representative of Krsna. From all angles of vision, therefore, the word guru is especially meant for the bona fide representative of Krsna and no one else. Padma Purana states, avaisnavo gurur na syat: one who is not a Vaisnava, or who is not a representative of Krsna, cannot be a guru. Even the most qualified brahmana cannot become a guru if he is not a representative of Krsna. Brahmanas are supposed to acquire six kinds of auspicious qualifications: they become very learned scholars (pathana) and very qualified teachers (pathana); they become expert in worshiping the Lord or the demigods (yajana), and they teach others how to execute this worship (yajana); they qualify themselves as bona fide persons to receive alms from others (pratigraha), and they distribute the wealth in charity (dana). Yet even a brahmana possessing these qualifications cannot become a guru unless he is the representative of Krsna (gurur na syat). Vaisnavaḥ sva-paco guruḥ: but a Vaisnava, a bona fide representative of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Visnu, can become a guru, even if he is sva-paca, a member of a family of dog-eaters. Of the three divisions of heavenly planets (svarga-loka), bhauma-svarga is sometimes accepted as the tract of land in Bharata-varsa known as Kashmir. In this region there are certainly good facilities for material sense enjoyment, but this is not the business of a pure transcendentalist. Rūpa Gosvami describes the engagement of a pure transcendentalist as follows: (More...)

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It is said in the Narada Pancaratra that a person who is not a Vaisnava, he cannot become a guru. "A person born or qualified brahmana and knows all the mantras and tantras, but if he is an impersonalist, then he cannot become guru," avaisnavo gurur na syat, "whereas a person born in a low family, but he is a great devotee, he shall be accepted as a devotee, he shall be accepted as a guru." Tantra means Vedic knowledge expanded. (More...)

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It is said in the sastra that sat-karma-nipuno vipraḥ. Just like here it is accepted, brahmano nitaram guruḥ. So generally, brahmana is accepted as guru by other orders of society. So, but sastra says that brahmana is guru, that's all right, but sat-karma-nipuno vipraḥ. One brahmana is very nipuna in his karma-kanḍiya knowledge, sat-karma. Pathana-pathana-yajana-yajana-dana-pratigraha. This sat-karma. Nipuna: very expert. Mantra-tantra-visaradaḥ: and he's very expert in chanting the Vedic hymns and execution of tantra and so many things. Avaisnavo gurur na syat. If he's avaisnava, if he's not attached with Visnu, if he does not carry the order of Krsna, gurur na sa syat, sad-vaisnavaḥ sva-paco guruḥ. But if a person is Vaisnava, even if he's born in the family of a sva-paca... Sva-paca means dog-eaters, canḍala. If he's a Vaisnava he can become guru. And if one is a brahmana, if he's not a Vaisnava... Naturally, brahmana means Vaisnava. Brahmana means panḍita. Still, in India a brahmana is addressed as "Panḍitji." Because a brahmana and mūrkha, rascal, this is contradictory. It cannot be. Unless one is highly learned, unless one has learned what is Brahman, he cannot become brahmana. Brahma janatiti brahmanaḥ. (More...)

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Therefore sastra says that the Mayavadis, rascals, they should not become guru because they do not know how to purify the disciple. The Mayavadi rascals, they do not know. They think after changing this body, one becomes purified. No. Therefore sastra says that sat-karma-nipuno vipro mantra-tantra-visaradaḥ [Padma Purana]. A person, vipra, brahmana, he is expert in six kinds of brahminical business, sat-karma. Sat means six, and karma means activities. Sat-karma-nipuno vipraḥ. Nipuna. Nipuna, very expert. He knows all the brahminical activities. What is that? Pathana-pathana yajana-yajana dana-pratigraha. He knows, he is educated. Brahmana means panḍita. He's personally educated, and he educates others. That is brahmana. Brahmana does not keep himself educated. That education, that means he is brahmana, he makes others also brahmana. That is brahmana. Not that "I remain brahmana, I remain Vaisnava, and others may suffer." No. Pathana-pathana. He must educate others. That is the business of brahmana. Para-duḥkha-duhkhi. That is Vaisnava. Vaisnava means who is unhappy by seeing others unhappy. (More...)

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So even though one is expert-pathana pathana yajana yajana dana pratigraha-avaisnavo gurur na sa syat. Sat-karma-nipuno vipro mantra-tantra-visaradaḥ [Padma Purana]: he is expert in reciting all the mantras, Vedic mantras, he knows everything-but he is not a Vaisnava. You'll find nowadays impersonalists, voidists, so many brahmanas, they have no idea what is the..., what is God, who is God. That is called avaisnava. Vaisnava knows what is Visnu, what is God. But avaisnava, non-Vaisnava, they do not know. So this is the formula, that even one brahmana is expert in all knowledge, but he does not know who is God, gurur na sa syat, he cannot become guru. This is the stricture. (More...)

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This is the definition of guru, that one brahmana, born in brahmana family and very educated, mantra-tantra-visaradaḥ, very expert in reciting Vedic mantras... That is the duty of brahmana, veda-mantra. So mantra-tantra-visaradaḥ. But avaisnava, if he's not Vaisnava, or if he's not follower of the instruction of Visnu or Krsna, avaisnavo gurur na syat, he cannot become guru. And syad vaisnavaḥ sva-pacaḥ. Sva-pacaḥ means the dog-eater. That is considered the lowest of the mankind, dog-eaters, means canḍala, bhahgi. He becomes gu..., he can become guru. How? If he's Vaisnava, he is devotee of Visnu or Krsna. So Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu... That is His mission. (More...)

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Therefore Krsna says that this kind of yoga practice is simply cheating. The first-class yogi is he... Yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatenantar-atmana [Bg 6.47]. One who is thinking of always Krsna, "Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna," he is first-class yogi. And they are all cheaters. Some foolish people are cheated by this yogic jugglery and he gets some position, some material position. So material positions there are many. Even a politician, if he talks, many millions people gather to hear him. But what is the benefit of such hearing? First of all we have to see what is the benefit. Sravanam kirtanam visnoḥ [SB 7.5.23]. (More...)

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