subtle seeing women, etc.

 
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Yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde. One emperor, he was king, so naturally he was lusty also. So he gave up this life, became a devotee. So when he was perfectly situated, so he said, Yamunacarya-he was the guru of Ramanujacarya-so he said that yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde: "Since I've trained my mind to be engaged in the service of the lotus feet of Krsna," yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde nava-nava-dhamany udyatam rasa, "daily I am offering service to Krsna, I am getting new, new pleasure." The spiritual life means... If one is actually situated in spiritual life he'll get spiritual pleasure, transcendental bliss, by serving more and more, new and new. That is spiritual life. So Yamunacarya said, yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde nava-nava-dhamany udyatam rantum asit: "When I am now realizing transcendental pleasure every moment by serving Krsna's lotus feet," tad-avadhi, "since then," bata nari-sahgame... Sometimes we enjoy subtle pleasure, thinking of sex life. That is called nari-sahgame. Nari means woman, and sahga means union. So those who are practiced, so when there is actually no union, they think of union. So Yamunacarya says that "Not actually union with woman, but if I think of union," tad-avadhi bata nari-sahgame smaryamane, smaryamane, "simply by thinking," bhavati mukha-vikaraḥ, "oḥ, immediately I becomes disgusted: 'Aḥ, what is this nasty thing?' " Susthu nisthi... [makes spitting sound] This is perfect. [chuckles] This is perfection. Yes. So long we'll think of, that is called subtle sex, thinking. They read the sex literature. That is subtle sex. Gross sex and subtle sex. So one has to become completely free from these lusty desires, not to become implicated which will never be satisfied-unsatiated, duspūram.    (More...)
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So we should be very... Brahmacari, there are so many restrictions. Even to see woman-"A beautiful woman is going, let me see"-that is also forbidden. That is also subtle sex enjoyment. Gross and subtle. There are so many subtle sex enjoyments-to think of woman, to see a beautiful woman going on the street, or to talk about woman, to read about woman. There are eight kinds of subtle sexual intercourse. [Bharavi-tika - Mallinathaji] So it is restricted. But in the Kali-yuga it is very difficult to follow all the rules and regulation. One is not trained up. Even up to ripe old age, one becomes attracted by beautiful woman, especially in the Western countries. I have seen in Paris, old man, seventy-five years old, eighty years old, they are going to the brothel, they are going to the night club. They are purchasing ticket to enter into the club-fifty dollars. Then they have to pay for the woman and wine and everything. In this way...    (More...)

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