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Hrdayananda: There is a... There is a problem to some extent, but I don't think it should be exaggerated...

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Hrdayananda: ...that you should be disturbed. It's not that everything is collapsing like that.

Prabhupada: No, no, they should be engaged in some...

Devotee: How can you say the situation...?

Prabhupada: ...cottage industry. Cottage industry.

Hrdayananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: And we can manufacture so many things.

Hrdayananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: The engagement must be there.

Hrdayananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: It can be organized. The children should be raised Krsna devotees. The woman can be engaged. Everyone can be engaged. I can give you suggestion if you can execute.

Hrdayananda: Srila Prabhupada, we were thinking that it would be nice to have the cities, city centers, for the preachers, and those, for example, women, children, it's much easier to maintain them on our farms. That way they can do a little work and produce their own food and...

Prabhupada: Yes, in the farms they can live and do some handwork.

Hrdayananda: Yes.

Guru-krpa: They won't do it, though, Srila Prabhupada.

Hrdayananda: They must do.

Prabhupada: Then you don't allow. Don't allow that. Don't allow.

Guru-krpa: That's good.

Hrdayananda: Maintenance is much more simple, easier, less expensive for them on a farm.

Prabhupada: If they do not follow the rules and regulations, then what is the use?

Hrdayananda: We were thinking that unless someone is a preacher, he has no real business in the city. Let him go have a peaceful life out on the farm.

Yasodanandana: It has been seen that when many householders come together in many of our big communities, because there are so many women and children, there is a great atmosphere of laziness a lot of times. I have seen in Los Angeles and also in many other temples. But when there's a lot of brahmacaris preaching, it's much more enlivening.

Prabhupada: So now you make some regulation. Otherwise... Attending class? No.

Hrdayananda: Excuse me?

Prabhupada: They attend class?

Gargamuni: Yeah.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Gargamuni: Yeah, they attend aratikas and class, because there's no other activity there.

Prabhupada: No, that is also good.

Gargamuni: No, they should attend. They are attending. I have... We had nice... Bhakti... Your Guru Maharaja appearance day, we had nice program. Some people came...

Prabhupada: Everyone should be engaged. That's all. No idle life. That should be... Karma jyayo hy akarma-krt. What is that? Sarira-yatrapi te na prasiddhyed akarmanah. Ah. Niyata.... Niyatam kuru karma tvam karma jyayoh' akarmanah, sarira yatrapi te [Bg 3.8]. Krsna never encouraged laziness, never encouraged.

[break] "...people are maintaining some lazy men." Then everything will be spoiled.

Gargamuni: That boy, Mahendra, told me when you... He came back. I met him in Germany. He said that you remarked that our Society is not love-making Society. But there are so many of these things are going on, and there is...

Prabhupada: Yes, I have seen. In Vrndavana.

Gargamuni: ...a burden for maintaining our temples because there's so many of these women and children with no husbands.

Guru-krpa: Actually, in...

Gargamuni: Because they do not take marriage life seriously in this age.

Guru-krpa: In the temples, they engage the brahmacaris to support the householders.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Guru-krpa: The brahmacaris are supporting the householders.

Prabhupada: How?

Guru-krpa: Well, they are doing the saṅkirtana and collecting the funds, and the householders are spending.

Prabhupada: [break] [Transl. Is it? Is there water upstairs?] [break]

Jayapataka: Last night brahmacaris went down there, and they were lifting the kadai on the head, and they were encouraging the men, and the people became... And Guru-krpa was coming and Gargamuni. And the people were so happy that the devotees were there. They were working much harder.

Prabhupada: When a man takes his work in his own hand, it is sure to be done. So all of you encourage them.

Jayapataka: Mahesvasa commented that although all day we're yelling at the men, when the work is over, they are laughing and saying "Hare Krsna."

Prabhupada: Yes. That is association, a mass movement. [break] ...our boy, especially boy, in solitary place, then spoiled. Then the maya is there immediately. That is very dangerous. [end]