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Acyutananda: "...Please, everyone join and say, 'Sai Rama ki jaya.' " Nobody... Complete silence. Again he said, "Everyone say, 'Sai Rama,' " and somebody yelled out, "Krsna, Krsna," and the whole audience said, "Hare Krsna," then he said "Hare Krsna." [dog barking]

Prabhupada: [gesturing to the dog.] Oh, Sai Rama. [laughter]

Acyutananda: Big Mayavadi. And later on he had a very nice program for us. But the first day we visited-as I said, that he plays with snakes-so as we were leaving I said to Yasodanandana Maharaja, "I didn't see any snakes." He says, "Didn't you see that man on the asana? [Prabhupada laughs] That big one?"

Prabhupada: That he said.

Yasodanandana: That was just between ourselves.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Acyutananda: Then he had a program with us, and he was chanting. He was a very nice man.

Yasodanandana: He came and danced with us also.

Acyutananda: And all the Saivite brahmanas doing the yajna, they came and danced with us like ghosts, like madmen. [break]

Prabhupada: ...that Krsna is the Supreme, that is not very much liked by others. What do you think? Huh? When you say that Krsna is the Supreme, it is not very much liked by others. Huh?

Indian man (1): Everyone likes.

Prabhupada: Everyone likes?

Yasodanandana: Except the Mayavadis.

Prabhupada: There are many Mayavadis.

Yasodanandana: They may not like, but they cannot prove the contrary. They cannot prove that Krsna is not the Supreme.

Indian man (1): Even in cinema, when they see the picture of Krsna, the audience will feel very happy.

Acyutananda: Our cinema or on the outside?

Indian man (1): Ordinary cinemas also.

Acyutananda: There is one actor who always plays Krsna, N.T. Rama Rao. So once he came on the street and everyone came following him and touching his feet.

Prabhupada: Accha?

Acyutananda: Because they thought he was Krsna. Because they saw him playing Krsna in every movie. So he had hundreds of people following him. [break]

Prabhupada: ...yata ayur-vyayaḥ param. Prahlada Maharaja said, tat prayasam na kartavyam: "This kind of endeavor you should not do." Exploitation. [SB 7.6.4] Not exploitation; I mean to say, unnecessarily trying for developing economic condition. The modern civilization is: "Exploit nature and materially be opulent."

Yasodanandana: It has been seen everywhere we travel that there is plenty of rice everywhere, there is plenty of food growing everywhere, but yet the government is advertising that there is scarcity of food in everything. But there is plenty growing everywhere.

Prabhupada: And reduce population. Kill it. Hiranyakasipu was doing that.

Acyutananda: Birth control?

Prabhupada: Yes. Prajapati. He stopped Prajapatis to beget children.

Devotee (2): They said they are giving employment to many people.

Prabhupada: Who?

Devotee (2): The government says they are giving employment by opening these mica mines and so many things. The government says they are giving employment and work to many people.

Prabhupada: Hmm. So you like to be employed?

Acyutananda: In one mine recently there was a big cave-in, and how many people...? Three hundred men were killed.

Prabhupada: Mica mine?

Acyutananda: Coal. In...

Prabhupada: In Bihar.

Acyutananda: Bihar. In Dhanbad. [break]

Devotee (2): In Bangalore, when I was meeting one person and encouraging to become a member, he was telling that among the Durga worships, one of the Durga forms called Santi Dūrga is under the mode of goodness worship. I just want some clarification.

Acyutananda: Sattva-guna is also maya. Somebody asked, they said, "There is a Mahgala-gauri." So I said, "That means there must be some other Gauris who are not mahgala. Why they have specified that this Gauri is Mahgala-gauri. Then other Gauris are not mahgala." [break]

Prabhupada: ...samhita we understand, srsti-sthiti-pralaya [Bs 5.44]. The pralaya is amahgala, and srsti is mahgala. Sthiti is also mahgala. So Gauri has got three functions, Durga. [break]

Devotee (3): A devotee who has tasted the nectar of the lotus feet of the Lord can never, if he falls down, can never forget it. Does it mean that his journey in the material world is finished, I mean, is about to finish?

Prabhupada: Answer, somebody.

Mahamsa: What was the question?

Prabhupada: Answer.

Devotee (3): A person who has tasted the nectar of the lotus feet of the Lord, if he falls down he can never forget anything. He doesn't act like an ordinary karmi. Does that mean that his journey in the material world is about to finish?

Mahamsa: He falls down due to certain offenses, but afterwards, by the mercy of a pure devotee, he comes back. Because he has tasted the nectar of devotional service, he may try to enjoy the material world for some time. But afterwards he will be fed up again and come back.

Tamala Krsna: There's a statement in the Bhagavad-gita that if one is engaged in the service of the Lord, even if he falls down, he is to be considered saintly. Sadhur eva sa mantavyaḥ [Bg 9.30].

Prabhupada: Yes, if it is accidental. If it is purposefully, then he is not saintly; then he is offender.

Devotee (3): Accidentally means that maya...

Prabhupada: Accident... He had former habit, and unknowingly he has done something wrong. That is accident. That is explained by Bhaktivinoda Thakura. Not purposefully doing wrong. That is aparadha. Namnad balad yasya hi papa-buddhiḥ.

Acyutananda: The Deities' name is Radha-Parthasarathi.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Acyutananda: The name of the Delhi Deities is Radha-Parthasarathi. So how do we understand? Because Partha means Arjuna. So Radha, how does Radha get there?

Prabhupada: When Krsna is Parthasarathi, Radha is out of Him? Does it mean?

Indian man (1): What you mean, Parthasarathi is Sri Krsna.

Acyutananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: That's all. Yes. Radha-krsna-pranaya-vikrtir ahladini-saktir . When He is fighting, the ahladini-sakti is there. It is not manifest. [break]

Acyutananda: ...they have Krsna and Radha-Rukmini.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Acyutananda: Radha, Rukmini and Krsna. So won't Krsna feel embarrassed to stand between Radha and Rukmini at the same time?

Prabhupada: [laughs] Why? Why embarrassed? Two sides. One side, Radha...

Acyutananda: Yes. One side, Radha, one side, Rukmini.

Tamala Krsna: Is that bona fide, Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Yes. I don't find any fault.

Acyutananda: It's not rasabhasa?

Prabhupada: Huh? Not rasabhasa. But it is not mentioned in anywhere. This is mental... They should not have done like that. Several times He requested the gopis, I think, that "You come to Dvaraka," but they refused.

Acyutananda: The gopi-candana [the tilaka] comes from the lake where they say the gopis drowned themselves, and that is near Dvaraka. Is that a true story?

Prabhupada: Maybe they might have gone. [break] ...these houses.

Indian man (1): These private houses given by the government. Not the house-land is given. But a loan is... [end]