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Prabhupada: Doctor can manage securing medicine, distributing. That is another thing.

Gopal Krsna: Actually, from his talk I could understand that he actually doesn't want to do much. He said he will not be able to come and examine the patients even.

Prabhupada: Then?

Gopal Krsna: He says, "You try to find some other doctor." He told me, "You find out names and addresses of the local doctors, and we'll pick one of them."

Prabhupada: No, no, we cannot divert our attention. It is not possible. Say, "No." You can say that "We consulted Prabhupada. He said, 'At the present moment, unless our building is there, we cannot accept any other extra business.' " Tell him like that. [aside:] Hare Krsna. [break]

Yasomatinandana: I suggested. [break]

Prabhupada: For nothing. No, no, that is not possible. These are for the karmis, bodily concept of life. If government has got so many hospitals, what is the use of opening a teeny hospital by us? Vivekananda policy-to collect money by school and hospital. So you can tell him that "At the present moment, we are concerned about the sanction of the building and temple. So when the building is there, then we can consider; not at the present moment. We require money. We collect for this purpose. We cannot divert attention for medicine and other things."

Gopal Krsna: Actually, I could gather that he just talked, because he also said that we should train up some devotees to do bandage and other things like that.

Prabhupada: [laughs] No, no, this is not.

Bhagavata: We do all the work, and he gets advertised as a great charitable doctor.

Prabhupada: That's it.

Bhagavata: That he has opened the clinic.

Prabhupada: Daridra-narayana-seva. [laughs] We are not all these false things. Dr. Ghosh is also after daridra-narayana-seva. [break] We will collect medicine. Our... We shall pay for the expenditure. Our men will be engaged for bandaging. [laughs] Nonsense.

Bhagavata: And the preaching stops.

Prabhupada: Ah. They cannot understand what is the meaning of this Krsna consciousness. They are such dull-headed men. They have no brain to understand. They are coming down again. Just like the dog's tail. Know, dog's tail? You may, however grease it... [laughs] They are hearing about this Krsna consciousness. The aim is the body, the dog's tail. They are hearing daily about Krsna na..., but they cannot understand. It is very difficult. These karmis... Now they say... Because we are reading this Bhagavatam, now gradually they dispersed. Gradually they dispersed. They are not interested.

[aside:] Hare Krsna.

And if you talk politics and all nonsense, oh, they will gather.

yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke
sva-dhih kalatradisu bhauma-ijya-dhih
yat-tirtha-buddhih salile na karhicij
janesv abhijnesu sa eva go-kharah
[SB 10.84.13]

The go-khara class. You can say plainly that "For the present, we are not interested. We have got many more important business than this hospitalization." [break]

Bhagavata: ...take Caranaravinda from the hospital. So before we left, we had kirtana. And immediately all the patients became happier.

Prabhupada: Just see.

Bhagavata: The whole attitude was very dull and unhappy and morose, that "Oh, we are in the hospital. My body, my body..." As soon as we had the kirtana, they all got out of the bed and they came and stood around, and they watched, and some were clapping and chanting.

Prabhupada: Just see. Immediately life. Oh, just try to understand how much grave responsibility you have got.

Bhagavata: They all appreciated that we made this kirtana.

Prabhupada: Even the Russians appreciate. [aside, to devotee with microphone:] Don't push it in my mouth.

Devotee: Oh, I'm sorry. [break]

Prabhupada: That's all right. [break] "...bright-faces." [break] They are surprised to see the American boys. "Are you Americans?" Do they not question? Yes. Completely changed. They cannot recognize. Is it not?

Devotee: Yes. [Srila Prabhupada laughs]

Bhagavata: Because only they are used to seeing these hippies.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Bhagavata: They are only used to seeing these hippies...

Prabhupada: Yes.

Bhagavata: ...with beard and the hair, dirty.

Giriraja: My parents telephoned last week, and at first they couldn't recognize my voice. They couldn't believe that it was me.

Prabhupada: Then?

Giriraja: Krsna consciousness has changed the...

Prabhupada: So your father said that "I could not..."

Giriraja: Yes. He said, "Are you sure it's you?"

Prabhupada: [laughs] Just like a lawyer. [laughter] Hare Krsna. [break] Mother is also very nice. Unless father and mother is nice... I told your mother also. [aside:] Hare Krsna. [break] ...she become beautiful, now there is lusty desire.

Giriraja: [reading from Krsna book] "She frankly proposed to Krsna, 'My dear hero, I cannot leave You...' "

Prabhupada: She was a prostitute. She was a prostitute, but engaged in Kamsa's service. In India the prostitutes are engaged as maidservant in respectable houses still. During daytime they serve in some house, and at night they become prostitute. There are many prostitutes. One prostitute, when we were boys, she was coming to serve my mother as a lady barber. There is lady barber, for serving the ladies. And at night she was standing as prostitute. [break] ...a good relation with the neighborhood. There was no enviousness. "She is doing her own business. That's all."

Bhagavata: So then it's looked on as a necessity in the society.

Prabhupada: Yes. Prostitute is necessity. Otherwise these rascals, they will pollute all the woman. Therefore, for the rascals there must be some provision. Just like opening wine shop. It is not meant for everyone, but there are drunkards. Unless they get drinking, they will create some disturbance.

Bhagavata: So just like in Dvaraka there was prostitutes, and they were all devotees of Krsna.

Prabhupada: Yes. There are many devotees, prostitutes.

Bhagavata: So that was their service. Not their service, but that was their work.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Bhagavata: But still they were devotees of Krsna.

Prabhupada: Yes, that is their profession, livelihood, but they are devotees. In Calcutta there is a big temple, it is called Kaca-Kamini's temple. Kaca-Kamini means she was a prostitute, but she was kept by a very big businessman who was dealing in glass, mirrors and all... So he has made a temple for her with glass and mirrors. Therefore it is called kaca. Kaca means glass. Kaca-Kamini. [break] ...have a dispensary. Dr. Ojha. He thinks in this way people can be saved. That is also necessary, but not as necessary as this Krsna consciousness movement. [aside:] Hare Krsna.

Giriraja: Chapter Forty-two. "The Killing of the Elephant Kuvala..." [break]

Prabhupada: We are speaking of Krsna. No Indians are interested. Just see. [Hindi with Indian man] Dr. Patel and his company. [Hindi] [break] Hear about the expedition to moon, but not about Krsna. [aside:] What is that?

Devotee: It came off.

Prabhupada: No, it is all right.

Devotee: There's another one underneath. [end]