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Prabhupada: Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam

Devotee: yoginah.

Prabhupada: yoginah yasyantam na viduh surasura-gana [SB 12.13.1]. So the brahmanas, although sura, he does not know Krsna. Yasyantam na viduh surasura-gana. The asuras, they do not know. Sometimes they... Muhyanti yat surayah. So this was the test. Krsna made a test, that "These brahmanas are very much proud of their learning, Vedic knowledge.

[break] They do not know Me." Yatatam api siddhanam [Bg 7.3]. Eh? Yatatam api siddhanam. They were siddhas, but they do not know Krsna. Yes.

Bhagavata: They were not suddha-sattvika. They were only sattvika.

Prabhupada: Yes, on the sattvika. Yes, you are right. One has to go above the sattvika position, suddha-sattva. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam [SB 4.3.23]. From Vasudeva conception, the Vasudeva comes out.

Dr. Patel: Now, after the suddha-sattva form that you get...

Prabhupada: That is vasudeva-sattva.

Dr. Patel: ...then you are the real devotee.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Dr. Patel: After that also, you go beyond all the three gunas. Then you become... [break]

Prabhupada: ...vasudeva-sabditam. All right, go on.

Giriraja: [reading Krsna book] "When the boys saw that the brahmanas would not speak to them, they became very disappointed. They then returned to Lord Krsna..." [break]

Prabhupada: ...devotees of Krsna becomes very much disappointed when one sees that the other one is not devotee of Krsna.

Giriraja: "They then returned to Lord Krsna and Balarama and explained everything that had happened. After hearing their statements, the Supreme Personality began to smile. He told them that they should not be sorry for being refused by the brahmanas."

Prabhupada: And this is the position of the preacher. Even if you are disappointed, you should not stop your preaching. You should go on with your business.

Giriraja: "He told them that they should not be sorry for being refused by the brahmanas, because that is the way of begging. He convinced them that while one is engaged in collecting or begging, one should not think that he will be successful everywhere. He may be unsuccessful in some places, but that should not be cause for disappointment." [break]

Prabhupada: ...tama dasa Thakura has said, karma-kanda jnana-kanda, sakale visera bhanda. Bhanda. It is a pot of poison. Karma-kanda, karma-kanda process and the jnana-kanda process, karmis and the jnanis... Karma-kanda jnana-kanda, sakale visera bhanda: "Both of them are poison pots." Jnana-kanda also.

Dr. Patel: But jnana, you say, bhakti or jnana automatically comes up.

Prabhupada: No, bhakti does not depend on jnana, but jnana depends on bhakti. Without bhakti, one cannot get liberation simply by jnana. But if one develops bhakti, automatically he gets jnana. Karma-kanda jnana-kanda, sakale visera bhanda [Sri Prema Bhakti-candrika].

The visera bhanda, amrta baliya yeba khaya [Narottama dasa Thakura]. If one mistakes that this is the pot of nectarean, ambrosia, then what is the result? Nana yoni brahman kare: "He remains within the cycle of birth and death." Nana yoni brahman kare, kadarya bhaksana kare. And if he gets the body of a hog and dog, then he eats all the abominable things. Nana yoni..., tara janma adhah-pate yaya. So he condemns his human form of body in this way. Spoils. So one should not be attached to karma-kanda, jnana-kanda. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu ].

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