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Prabhupada: He is qualified man.

Kirtanananda: He's qualified. He's your friend. He's very understanding. But, of course, putting ourselves under his care means that we have to follow his instruction.

Prabhupada: He instructed hospitalization.

Tamala Krsna: Yes, hospitalization.

Kirtanananda: Ultimately, whatever he says we have to do if we're going to accept him. But he's also very understanding, and I think in your condition I think there may be no need for hospitalization. We need to get some regular care established. There has to be a regimen for recovery.

Prabhupada: No, that I have already explained. I don't want to go to hospital.

Kirtanananda: So that is not necessary. [Prabhupada coughs heavily] [break]

Tamala Krsna: Jayapataka Maharaja has come from Mayapur.

Prabhupada: Come here. [heavy coughing] Mucus is generating, either you take milk or fruit juice. I have given my opinion in that correspondence. And he's a qualified man. If you want him, then somebody may go to him and talk.

Kirtanananda: Yes, that should be done. We'll do that today.

Prabhupada: He wanted to retire and start a clinic here.

Kirtanananda: So he can come now.

Prabhupada: So we can help.

Kirtanananda: Yes. It's a very good idea.

Prabhupada: So, what is the report, Jayapataka?

Jayapataka: Since I left you in Bombay, then I returned and presented the Show Cause to the additional district magistrate. And he just looked at it and postponed it till November 18th. He postponed, so as far as that goes, there's nothing until November 18th. Then, I think, Bhavananda Maharaja gave the report about the court. They released... They reduced the bail restriction on the devotees. I went on a tour of Orissa to the two temples there, Bhubaneswar and Bhadrak. In Bhubaneswar they have nice garden [Prabhupada coughing up mucus] and about six or seven devotees. They had a nice Vyasa-puja and Janmastami festival.

Prabhupada: Magistrate wants my presence?

Jayapataka: No. It is not required that you talk to him. There's no... Everyone says that there's no case for that. The previous ADM said that actually the person that was doing it is this woman district magistrate. That woman is quite inimical to us. So there's very strong talk that after Durga Puja she'll be transferred. If she's transferred, then our situation would become much better, I hope, by Krsna's mercy. She's just trying to harass us, but actually she has no legal scope. Indian Overseas Bank came out, the additional general manager, to Mayapur, and he's very eager to open up the branch at Mayapur also, because they have already in Bombay. I think they have here also? I don't know. But he was eager to open a branch there. They have made us an application. The Central Bank sent a letter, withdrew their application for opening the bank. Right now the gurukula, they have just finished their examinations. Their examinations were writing an English sentence in Sanskrit and writing Sanskrit in English, and similar type tests. They..., most of the students got seventy percent on the examination. Then the bigger children went out on saṅkirtana with the two traveling parties, one to Darjeeling. In Darjeeling they sold seven thousand books in less than ten days. They had very good reception in Darjeeling. And one party is still in Bihar. They're doing all... They did four thousand books.

Prabhupada: Bengali.

Jayapataka: In Bihar-they were doing the border of Bengal in Bihar-so they did both Hindi and Bengali. And in Darjeeling they did Bengali. Every day we're getting about twenty letters in the mail from people who want to be devotees or want to subscribe to the magazine. We get a big stack of mail. So there's a lot of interest from the books.

Prabhupada: So utilize them properly.

Jayapataka: Now there's eighty boys in the gurukula, and they're all very bright-faced, chant very nicely. [Prabhupada coughing heavily throughout] In the other temple that Lokanatha Swami had begun in Orissa, Bhadrak, there they also had a nice program during Janmastami and Vyasa-puja. I visited there. There it's in a small town, and it's about two hundred feet from the side of a small river. All the local people there are very favorable and very cooperative. So they help in all the functions.

Prabhupada: Where is that place?

Jayapataka: That's in Balasore district. It's about thirty miles south of Balasore. It's a three-hour bus ride from Bhubaneswar north. There's a Gaura-Gopala Mandir there that was being managed by a disciple of Parvat Maharaja, a disciple of Parvat Maharaja. Lokanatha Swami had written to you that they wanted to donate the temple plus twenty-four bighas of land, and you had replied back that he should accept it. So he left three men there from his party, and they registered the land in your name, including the mandira. At that place Lord Caitanya had visited on occasion, going back and forth between Bengal...

Prabhupada: Baripada? That place is called Baripada?

Jayapataka: Now it's called Bhadrak. They're... Just a few hundred yards from the place of the mandira is the place where Lord Caitanya sat where He was staying for five days when He was there. Then about two miles away on another occasion He stayed at a Gaura..., at a Radha-Madana-mohana or some mandira. Lord Caitanya's been going there on occasion. It's in the Caitanya-caritamrta. It mentions the place. And the people who have given us the temple, they are the descendants of the devotee with whom Lord Caitanya stayed with. They're the same family. And so they're very enthusiastic, and they want to give all help. They've made a couple of... Although it's a small place, they've already made a couple of members, life patron members, and they're trying to collect donation. There's a college there, and some of the professors of the college come regularly to the temple, and they are chanting japa and they're bringing their students and other colleagues.

Prabhupada: Good field.

Jayapataka: Yes, although it's a village-type area, it seems to be good field. The people are not at all envious but quite cooperative. Also just about a quarter mile from the mandira there's a gosala which has got 33 acres, about 100 bighas of land and about 100 cows. Cows are not so good cows, but there's nice, paka buildings and good facilities. It's managed by some Marwaris. So they're willing to give that over to us in the future if we want. It's very nearby the temple. When I was there I gave a lecture at one temple, and about two, three hundred people came without any advertisement. In Haridaspur, at their Janmastami festival they had... Two thousand people came. They had a huge crowd. And every one of the villagers, they organized the whole thing there, the leaders-gathered firewood, helped with distribution. We sent some devotees from Mayapur. Bhakti-prabhava Swami sends his obeisances to Your Divine Grace.

Hari-sauri: What about Mahesa Pandita's place?

Jayapataka: They want that the case be dropped and that they be given jobs, like before. [laughter]

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Jayapataka: They're sending messenger requesting that there should be some type of agreement whereby the charges against them are dropped, the case is dropped, and that they're given the old jobs back.

Prabhupada: The charges are made by the government. We cannot drop. Do you follow?

Jayapataka: Yes. The charges can't be dropped by us, but if the two parties make a type of compromise agreement and file a petition to the court...

Prabhupada: But now the fight is not between them and us. The fight is between government and them.

Jayapataka: Many barristers in Calcutta say that if due to political pressure, this or that, some people come and ask us to try to file a petition for dropping charges, that there's no need to do that, because the case is well in our favor.

Prabhupada: Yes. If you drop, they get opportunity.

Jayapataka: Yes. No, we have no intention to drop the charges. That would not clear our name. The day I returned, the Secretary General... Rather, the General Secretary of the State Congress Party, Mr. K. K. Sukla, he just happened to visit our mandira, and he heard the whole story, and he said that he'll give whatever support he can, and once they..., if they get back into any power, then he will see that our programs get full assistance. Then our lawyer told us that he has been talking to some ministers in the present Communist government, and they're saying that they're willing to support our movement if we do some works that are beneficially for the people. They're not saying that we're not doing any so far, but for any future, other things like the bridges or the schemes we have, they're willing to give us support for those. By your mercy everything is gradually changing around. [pause] The tantric astrologer there, he gave some predictions.

Prabhupada: What is that?

Jayapataka: Well, about two weeks ago he had told Bhavananda that he would be called to Vrndavana and that all the GBCs or leaders of the Society would be called to Vrndavana to see Your Divine Grace. He said that actually Your Divine Grace is a pure Vaisnava, and like a type of avatara, empowered person of Krsna, so that he doesn't..., he shouldn't really speak anything, because he's simply a tantric type of astrologer, 'cause you are able to change your fate or change the, er, according to your desire. He predicted that all the GBCs would be coming. He said that up till the November 28th is the last date of the sickness, and that after that, then your sickness... You would take a month or so to fully recuperate, and then from January on you'd be quite healthy again, and for at least seven years you wouldn't have any trouble with health. The big day... He put the biggest day at November 28th.

Hari-sauri: The worst day, or...?

Jayapataka: That's the end of the bad period.

Hari-sauri: I'll get the other chart. This man in Delhi did another chart.

Prabhupada: Why November 28th?

Jayapataka: Why? That's just his... He may or may not be accurate.

Bhavananda: What is the occurrence on that day?

Jayapataka: He said that that's the last day of the...

Bhavananda: That's the day Venus changes houses.

Jayapataka: Is it?

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Kirtanananda: That's the day Venus changes houses.

Jayapataka: He said that he is praying that Krsna will keep you here, 'cause without a pure devotee in the world then everything becomes dark. [pause] West Bengal Council for Child Welfare and the West Bengal Government Health Department Inspector came out and inspected our distribution. We have five centers where we distribute five days a week, Monday through Friday, the foodstuff. We eat another thing given by the government. We prepare that and offer it to the Deity and distribute that from our temple as well as from a nearby village. The local villagers help to distribute. Right now twelve hundred people are taking every day. So they were very satisfied with the arrangement. And one of the centers is Mayapur village. They had been refusing to take, and he said, "You just change and put into another village. They're not the only poor people in the world. Any other village can take." They are very favorable to our program. They've given us a full quota that daily 1,846 people can get food, and they'll bear the costs of grain and oil, etc.

Prabhupada: What is this preparation?

Jayapataka: It's wheat that's chipped. It's called bulgar wheat. It's wheat that's chipped into small pieces so that it's... It's like oversized suji, about three times the size of suji, and that's just boiled and cooked with oil and some gur and spices. Or it can also be cooked with vegetables and spices. It's supposed to be nutritious, healthy, strength-giving food. Mayapur Muslims tried to get the other Muslims in other villages not to take it because it was being given by us, but they said, "Why we shouldn't take? Just because you're giving them trouble doesn't mean we shouldn't take." So now they've all rebelled, and they're all taking now prasada. He gave us address where we can get powdered milk possibly also.

Prabhupada: It is mixed with powder milk?

Jayapataka: What we have right now isn't mixed with powdered milk. We want to mix powdered milk with it, but this department ran out of powdered milk, so another department has it. This is... They give oil to cook it in, like halava type, vegetable oil. It's like a cereal that they have in the West, in America and some places. Like dalya, dalya they call in Western India.

Prabhupada: They take it relishably?

Jayapataka: Yes.

Prabhupada: How much they can take?

Jayapataka: Well, the government calculates that each person gets 80 grams of dalya and 7 grams of oil, and when that's cooked that comes to nearly about four, five hundred grams cooked per head. It's about three clay cups, three, four clay cups.

Kirtanananda: Srila Prabhupada, if we could prop you up for a few minutes you could clear all that mucus out. It would come out much easier. Can we do that?

Prabhupada: Yes. [break]

Tamala Krsna: Come over here pisima.

Prabhupada: [Transl. Where you got the news?]

Pisima: [Transl. Chandra has not come. Chandra is outside. He is at the Matha.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Who gave you the message?]

Pisima: [Transl. I have been getting your news. I am crying from six months to come here. But they are saying he is well, you don't have to go.]

Saktimati: [Transl. Don't worry he will be alright. Let Mataji stay here in Vrndavana. She is not happy with her children. She is very unhappy. If she stays here, I will tell everyone to look after her. She has become very weak.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. You should not have come with so much trouble.]

Pisima: [Transl. I heard you are eating only fruits. Four, five days ago suddenly I felt so sad and began to cry. I am telling them my heart is crying out. I don't know why? Let me go there once and see him.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Today my condition is bad like this.]

Pisima: [Transl. Chandra has come. He is staying in the Matha. He was not sure whether they will allow him to come in or not.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Why they will not? Send someone to call him.] Somebody may be sent to Imlitala Matha to call her son.

Tamala Krsna: Which matha, Prabhupada? Imlitala Matha. All right. Pradyumna will go. Here, Bhakti-caru is here. Prabhupada said someone should go to Imlitala Matha to call Pisima's son.

Hari-sauri: Can we take the car?

Tamala Krsna: A ricksha.

Prabhupada: Give them here a small room.

Bhakti-caru: [to Pisima: Where is your son?]

Kirtanananda: Where, Srila Prabhupada?]

Hari-sauri: They've already got a room.

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada. A room has been arranged for her. She is staying with Saktimati Devi. She is taking care of Pisima.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Saktimati devi Dasi is staying with Pisima in the same room. The room is on the first floor, so there will be no difficulty.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. No, her son.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yes, I am going to call him.] [to Pisima: I am going to bring your son.]

Pisima: [Transl. But he is at the Matha now.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. I am going there to bring him.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Is there any fever?]

Pisima: [Transl. Let me feel.]

Saktimati Dasi: [Transl. Mataji will stay in Vrndavana. Mataji has become very weak. I will tell everyone to look after her.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. You also stay here.]

Saktimati Dasi: [Transl. I am staying here.]

Pisima: [Transl. I sent a message there and told Vrndavana to come. I told him to come with me.]

Prabhupada: Hun?

Pisima: [Transl. I told Vrndavana, come with me. Your father's health is not good. Let us go. Mucus is coming out.]

Upendra: Medicine.

Tamala Krsna: What do you want, Srila Prabhupada? The fan. You want it more?

Prabhupada: No.

Tamala Krsna: Stop the fan.

Prabhupada: Oh, it is going on?

Tamala Krsna: Yes, a little bit.

Prabhupada: Switch it off.

Upendra: Decrease. [break]

Jayapataka: At first some of the devotees were disturbed, but after the Balarama Appearance and Jhulan Purnima procession, that gave everyone new encouragement, because they saw how much the local people were appreciative of your work, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Everything will be settled up. Don't be disheartened. So when you left Mayapur, things were in order? Hmm?

Jayapataka: When I left Mayapur, then everything was in order. Nitaicanda and Sarva-bhavana Prabhu, as well as Panca-ratna, are there. Actually, one of our workers, he is filing his own case against thirteen Mayapur villagers, because they had attacked him while he was riding on his bicycle. So that was the only disturbance that had happened in the past month. But he's doing a case against them, and the police said that they would prosecute against them for what they did. So because the people are of such a bad nature, they are continually making such mistakes. This is even getting the authorities against them.

Prabhupada: Yes, they are gundas. [laughter]

Jayapataka: Because we are foreigners, so when they first came and said that "The foreigners, they are firing upon us Indians, although we did no wrong," so rather than take what is the actual situation, they immediately said, "Oh, yes, foreigners are firing upon our Indians." They took a national stand, influenced by different reasons. That is why that matter initially was against us. But now the fact that they are such type of gunda and anti-social, they are just showing by their own mistakes. They can't hide their nature. They've already been summoned by the SDO on what's called sabdara,[?] that they are undesirable elements, twenty of them, on another account, because they had done something else wrong, and they're all on a type of bail, even apart from our case. So day by day it's becoming more and more apparent, their nature. You gave me the name Jayapataka, Srila Prabhupada, and I hope that by your mercy this name can become true. Then there will be victory in all these efforts.

Prabhupada: It has become true.

Jayapataka: Even after the incident, when Gopala Krsna went and saw the chief secretary of West Bengal, he requested him that "Please do not be discouraged by these incidents. Do not shift your plan from West Bengal. These things will all be settled up, and I'll see that there will be an impartial investigation and trial." The chief minister, he wrote a letter that his party... [break]

Prabhupada: He wants to sell it. What does he want?

Jayapataka: Right now he's asking... Actually, right now he's more eager than ever to sell his land. The sadhu next to us, Praphulla Brahmacari, both of us, we met together, and we made a verbal agreement that we wouldn't give him any hope for purchasing his land at a high price. And as the result, now because of this incident... Before he had some hope that some outside person would come and buy land. But now the outside people, they don't want to purchase land at Mayapur. So now he has no other hope than to sell either to me, to us or to that brahmacari. So now he's still asking four thousand. He's come from six to four. But it's even appearing that within a short time he may come down to three thousand.

Prabhupada: So if he comes three thousand... How much land there is?

Jayapataka: There's four bighas.

Prabhupada: So purchase it. Do you follow?

Jayapataka: Yes. That brahmacari, he would purchase it also. If you wanted to have him purchase, he would purchase and give us a piece. He said he would give us a piece alongside the building as big as we want, and he would purchase the rest.

Prabhupada: My idea is it is a land where we shall dig another pond. No building.

Jayapataka: Build another pond.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Jayapataka: The pukura. That land, at least at the front... The land at the... The whole length is very long and wide.

Prabhupada: Long and wide.

Jayapataka: And it would be a very... It's not so big to be a pukura. The whole width of the land, I think, is about sixty feet wide.

Tamala Krsna: It sounds like Prabhupada wants a moat.

Bhavananda: We could make a moat, a water barrier, so no one... [laughs] They couldn't attack from the back of the building.

Tamala Krsna: Is that your idea, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: You dig the earth and make it a lake like.

Tamala Krsna: Right along the building?

Prabhupada: No. Throw the earth this side and that side. Automatically it will be like a small canal.

Kirtanananda: Put crocodiles. [laughter]

Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada, I was somewhat disturbed after the incident, but I'm feeling much better now. After that, in the jail, and I was discouraged, I was feeling, "Oh, Srila Prabhupada is working so hard to develop this Mayapur, and the people don't appreciate it or... What is the use?" But that I think was... That's all gone now. So many people, they're coming, and books are being distributed. Increase.

Jayapataka: Bhavananda, when he... Just the day after he left here, there was a letter addressed to him. One gentleman wrote and said that "I am fifty years old and I am a M.A...." He was a professor of something. And then he said that "Now my children are all grown up and I'm simply working. So I have heard that you are a pure Vaisnava, so I want to take shelter and serve Krsna at your asrama." So although people are putting in paper so many things, but they are understanding that "No, he is a Vaisnava." So people believe what they want to believe. So whatever... It's all that... The devotees are devotees. When we see people, they always say, [Transl. Is the quarrel solved? Was it a fact?]. They don't believe it that the report is true. Everyone doubts the reports. Only those that are of envious mind, they believe in, because they want to believe that.

Prabhupada: What... [Transl. Missing?]

Tamala Krsna: What, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: [Transl. What missing he says?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. He says, is the quarrel solved?]

Prabhupada: Oh.

Jayapataka: They are asking that... They all think that actually the matter was not properly presented. So they're always asking that "Everything is now all right? Was it actually a fact or not?" In other words, they don't believe the reports that were given in the paper. They feel that, just from their own side, although they don't have any access to the truth, they all have a faith that the thing as it was presented couldn't have happened.

Prabhupada: So you can sit me up and wash.

Jayapataka: I think...

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? Should we bathe your whole body now?

Prabhupada: Not now.

Tamala Krsna: Just face and hand. Okay. [break]

Prabhupada: [Transl. to Bhakti-caru: Tell her another thing that by drinking fruit juice etc nothing is improving, so I want to eat solid food. She is a good cook, so in this condition what can she cook for me?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. to Pisima: Prabhupada is saying that by drinking fruit juice nothing is happening. He wants to eat some cooked food. So what can you prepare for him?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Ask her what I should eat?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. What should he eat now? She says, little Sukta, little broth without any chilli and spices.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Ah. Whatever she wishes.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Prabhupada says, whatever you want you cook.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Bring and give her whatever she wants. Let her cook. Today I will eat some solid food whatever good or bad happens. What bad is left to happen? She is a vaisnavi. I think bad will not happen, rather good will happen. Ask her, will khichri be good for me?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Khichri? Is Khichri good for him? She says, Khichri and sukta is not a good combination. So let us skip Khichri and make Sukta.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Ask which one she thinks better for me?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Which is better Khichri or Sukta? She says whatever you like.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. You cook what you think better for me.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Should she cook and keep ready your food around 12:30 Srila Prabhupada?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes, before that make me...]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Before that? Should she make it ready before that?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Doesn't matter. Whenever she wants. Ask when does she want to cook?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. What time will it be ready? She says by 10:00 to 10:30 it will be ready.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Give whatever ingredients she wants. Let her cook. After cooking let her offer it to Srila Prabhupada and then I will eat some solid food today.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Okay Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. And before she is done and ready to serve, you give me bath and make me ready.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Okay Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Now whatever she wants…]

Bhaki-caru: [Transl. Okay Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Why Candra did come till now?]

Pisima: [Transl. Chandra will come. He came yesterday. He could not meet you yesterday. He will come again today to see you.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. to Bhakti-caru: Make sure everything is taken care off.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. No Prabhupada, Everything is already arranged.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. May be due to opulence I have became little proud. The Supreme Lord smashed that pride of mine. [becomes emotional] If you don't have a body what is the use of your pride?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Srila Prabhupada, whatever you have done, you have done it all for the Supreme Lord only.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. That I did. [becomes emotional] But I had to deal with the world and in the course of that I made offense.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. You have no offense Srila Prabhupada. You are a very intimate devotee of the Lord. How can you make offense?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. I am begging forgiveness from all my godbrothers. May they understand it.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What can I do? Even when I give class I say 'rascals, rascals' every now and then. That is my nature. Srila Prabhupada used to call them fools. When I speak I never compromise. This you all know. They say 'preaching with an ax'. [laughs] With ax in one hand and Srimad-Bhagavatam in another hand. I did not compromise. Anyway make all the necessary arrangements. There should be no inconvenience.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. No, Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Let me eat little solid food.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada. Eat whatever you desire. Yesterday Pisima was saying to give little Yamuna water into your mouth from time to time. Should I put it with spoon?]

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? Two telegrams came for you.

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. to Pisima: You cook whatever you like.]

Prabhupada: Ahn?

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? Two telegrams came for you. One of them was sent by one of your Godbrothers.

Prabhupada: Who is he?

Tamala Krsna: Madhava Maharaja. He sent you a telegram from Chandigarh. It says, "Extremely anxious for your health. Praying to Srila Prabhupada and Lord Gaura-Krsna for Their blessings unto you."

Prabhupada: So send him back telegram: "Thank you. Excuse my offenses-all Godbrothers." What you have written?

Tamala Krsna: "Thank you. Excuse my offenses-all Godbrothers."

Prabhupada: What is the other say here?

Tamala Krsna: The other telegram is from Australia.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Tamala Krsna: "Dearest Srila Prabhupada, please do not leave us, for without your lotus feet we have no shelter. We are trying to distribute more books. Your eternal servants at Sydney Mandir."

Prabhupada: Yes, I am willing to stay. After all, it is Krsna's desire.

Prabhupada: [Transl. to Bhakti-caru: Do they have attached bathroom in their room?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Pardon, Srila Prabhupada?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Do they have attached bathroom in their room?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. to Pisima: Is there an attached bathroom in your room? [to Prabhupada: Yes, there is.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Didn't you see it?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. I didn't go to her room. Because it is ladies quarter.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Then how did you tell me I am arranging everything?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. I said I am supervising. She is staying with Saktimati Devi Dasi. She is taking care of her.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Make sure she doesn't have any problem.]

Bhakti-caru: Okay, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: [Transl. When her cooking is ready, you wash and bathe me before that. [Bhakti-caru and Pisima whisper] She is hard of hearing.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. No, Prabhupada. She heard what I said.]

Tamala Krsna: You want kirtana, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: Jaya Sri Krsna Caitanya.

Prabhupada: Kirtaniyah sada harih . Kirtana is our life.

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada? Two new Krsna book trilogies arrived from Brazil.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Tamala Krsna: Portuguese. How many copies are printed?

Hrdayananda: Altogether, about a hundred thousand.

Tamala Krsna: One hundred thousand copies printed.

Prabhupada: Ah, Hrdayananda has come.

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Hrdayananda Maharaja is here.

Prabhupada: Thank you very much. Printing of book is our real work. [Transl. Tell her may she live very happily.] [kirtana]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Live happily, Prabhupada said.]

Prabhupada: Let me see the book.

Tamala Krsna: What, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: The book.

Tamala Krsna: This one is easier to see. Sri Radha-Krsna. Your picture is there on the back.

Prabhupada: Very nice.

Tamala Krsna: Very nice. Pictures are in the front.

Prabhupada: How many copies?

Tamala Krsna: One hundred thousand.

Prabhupada: Oh! How we are selling?

Tamala Krsna: How they are selling, Hrdayananda?

Hrdayananda: Very nice.

Tamala Krsna: Very good, he said.

Hrdayananda: Over a thousand per day.

Tamala Krsna: Over one thousand per day are selling in Brazil.

Prabhupada: Oh. What is the price?

Hrdayananda: Price? They're charging to the public around eighty cents.

Prabhupada: So you have got a...

Tamala Krsna: What, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: A good collection?

Tamala Krsna: Good collection, Hrdayananda?

Hrdayananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: Print more books.

Hrdayananda: Yes. Also in Brazil the Bhagavatam is very, very popular.

Prabhupada: This is life. This material world and the bones... The bones are not our... This is life. We are not concerned with bones and stones. Our real concern is the living force. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param, jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg 7.5]. The living force which is sustaining the bones... Bone is not important. It may remain; it may go. It doesn't matter. Real life, what is sustaining the bone, is steady. We have got history that there was a rsi, he had only bones. So there is a science by which you can sustain life-only bones. Hiranyakasipu did it, practically.

Tamala Krsna: You are also doing it, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: So take care of the bones as long as possible. Real life is here. Always remember that. And material world means they are simply all protecting bones and flesh together. They have no idea what they are. Bones and flesh. Bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh [Bg 7.4]. Apareyam. It is useless. Not useless-inferior. Real? That jiva-bhuta, which is sustaining. Thank you very much. Print book, and as I have given in my will, half, again print, and half spent for propaganda as you like. In this way go on. Jayapataka, you are doing that?

Tamala Krsna: Jayapataka, are you doing that? Half spending and half for printing, half for [indistinct]?

Jayapataka: In Bengal, because the people are so poor, so there we are giving the book and just taking five or ten percent profit margin...

Prabhupada: No, no.

Jayapataka: ...for the small books, for propaganda purpose, so that we can reach many people.

Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever propaganda require you spend, but print books and distribute. Whatever English book we have got, if we translate into Bengali, we have got enough stock.

Jayapataka: Yes. We have a treasure house.

Prabhupada: In this way, in all languages, distribute. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna.

Jayapataka: Jaya Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Chant Hare Krsna. [kirtana] [break]

Tamala Krsna: What, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: You replied to Madhava Maha...?

Tamala Krsna: Yes. I'll reply it in your name, telegram from you in your name. I'll do the needful. Should I close these curtains or leave them open?

Prabhupada: No harm open.

Tamala Krsna: No harm open. Okay. Should I open the window? Get some fresh air, morning air?

[break]

Krsna Dasa Babaji: Hare Krsna.

Prabhupada: [Transl. Didn't Nrsimha Maharaja get the news?]

Guest Devotee: [Transl. Yes, He got. He will come.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. There is a vast field for preaching. I have travelled and preached in every town and village of the world whatever I could and seen that people are ready to accept it. And they are accepting it. If all of us together, even now we preach then Mahaprabhu's prediction prthivite ache yata will be fulfilled very nicely.]

Guest Devotee: [Transl. This is very important service.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. I have done as much as possible. So many places, big, big cities, there was no problem. This chanting of the holy name of Hari and distribution of prasada has a huge field. In Africa, in Soviet country. Recently our devotees have distributed books in Soviet country. And almost in all the languages we have printed books.]

Guest Devotee: [Transl. You have done so much.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. In Europe also we have books in all languages. Show them.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. I don't know what irrelevant things I wrote in every page.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. This is Srimad-Bhagavatam in German language.]

Guest devotee: [Transl. German language?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. This is Spanish. Portuguese.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Srila Prabhupada regretted at Radha-kunda...]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. We have books in eighteen languages.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. ...that I had a desire to print books. They...]

Krsna Dasa Babaji: Brhat Mrdaṅga.

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. These are the seventeen volumes of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. ...will quarrel for this marble temple and there will be fire in order to occupy it. I wish I take out all the marbles from the temple and sell them to print books. I took those words very seriously. I had a great desire to print books. Whether I can or not, I will write books somehow or other. Vasudeva had encouraged me.]

Krsna Dasa Babaji: [Transl. He had interest. He also wrote many books.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. I told him that Srila Prabhupada had told me to print books in English. But what English do I know? What will I write? He said, Abhaya Babu whatever you write, it will be all right. In this way they all liked me. He was a truthful person. You all know it. I have written books somehow or other, but these books are accepted in all the big, big Universities and the Libraries of the world. I never imagined that they will like my writings. But they are gladly accepting. Give little caranamrta.]

Guest Devotee: [Transl. Whispers to Krsna Dasa Baba. Puri Maharaja along with three, four persons just arrived here. They went to the temple to have darsana and pay their obeisances.]

Krsna Dasa Babaji: [Transl. Four devotees have come from Madras Matha to meet you.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Let them come.]

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