770529R1.VRN
770529R1.VRN
770529R1-Vrindavan [44:18 Minutes]
We shall kick it and break it
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Prabhupada: From all parts of the world. That is history. Generally he goes to Ja...
[pause] [kirtana in background] [break]
[Long Bengali conversation with Jayapataka and Indian men with a few English words interspersed]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Do what you will do.]
Indian (2): [Transl. What I will do.]
Indian (1): [Transl. You can give some advice, there are so many ways.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Nature cure treatment is totally practical. It is done very practicaly. I mean to say with soft hand, soft hand and with lot of experience it has to be done. I cannot do anything that will cause you suffering.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. So you stay here and do. I have no objection.]
Indian (2): [Transl. I have stopped doing it long time ago. That's the only thing. But I still remember something.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. If you can do, do.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Even now there are people who are still doing this natural treatment with practical hand and hatha-yoga. There are many nurses and compounders who still do this treatment with their own hands throughout the year. In Calcutta there are many Nature cure Hospitals where patients are treated throughout the year. They have in Calcutta and in different places. In Jasidih there is also one.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. I don't know anything what is to be done.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Gentle massage should be given in the heart and in the kidney. Listen, If these organs, if the kidney functions properly, then the swelling will reduce slowly and come to normal stage.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Do it if you can.]
Indian (2): [Transl. How is your bowel movement?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Not eating only, so where is the question of stool?]
Indian (2): [Transl. I see. So both eating and passing stool are stopped.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No. Whatever fruit juice I take that also turns into mucus.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Except fruit juice he doesn't eat anything more.]
Indian (1): [Transl. I also had a similar problem.]
Indian (2): [Transl. This person had mucus from a long time. Nobody could help him. But since the time he is following my advice, he is having nice stool formation.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. So you stay here for some time. We will give you a room. You stay here and do whatever is needful.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. If you can help reduce the swelling, do it.]
Indian (1): [Transl. Those who are here, they cannot do. They will have to work under my direction.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Men we have so many.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Enough men are there.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. So many men are there, and I have them massage me.]
Indian (1): [Transl. There is a system of giving massage.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Here who does massage?]
Indian (2): [Transl. Then…]
Indian (2): [Transl. When do they come in the morning? Morning?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Whenever you will say.]
Indian (1): [Transl. No, usually when do they give massage?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. They do at 10 am. They can come early also.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Do they use any alternate compress on the stomach? On the stomach, they do any alternate compress? Alternate?]
Indian (1): [Transl. Pressing both sides of the intestines.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Whatever you have to do, do it.]
Indian (1): [Transl. I will send him here one day.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes.]
Indian (2): [Transl. He will come and explain to them what and how exactly it should be done. He can personally do and show them. But he has been out of touch for a long time. In Calcutta, there are many professionals who do this kind of treatment.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. One Doctor of ours is coming.]
Indian (1): [Transl. Coming? Of nature cure?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Bengali.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Dr. Ghosh.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Nature cure. No medicine is required.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. What you call… What is the name of that place?]
Indian (2): [Transl. Good. From Germany there are two persons…]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Kodaikanal.]
Indian (2): [Transl. He is coming from there. Then it is good.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. If you know him personally, you can talk to him.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No, but before he comes, if you can teach, then it good...]
Jayapataka: You are a vaisnava, so if by yourself...
Indian (1): [Transl. Okay. He will come show something practically.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes. That is good.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Juice? Juice?]
Indian (2): [Transl. No. Juice is not required to take. He is an old man so.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. This is a service to a Mahabhagavata.]
Indian (2): [Transl. By slowly using alternate compress, he will be okay automatically.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Juice is not part of nature cure?]
Indian (2): [Transl. If it is done slowly, the stomach will start to function normally. Gentle massage is to be given. Do you take bath?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Do I have to take bath?]
Indian (2): [Transl. Yes. You have to take bath. And how much water do you drink?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. I drink less less.]
Indian (1): [Transl. You have to drink lot of water.]
Indian (2): [Transl. The quantity of water, or fruit juice as a substitute of water, if you take it with honey, either water or fruit juice, then this swelling will come down very easily.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Did you hear?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Don't give me sugar, give me honey.]
Indian (1): [Transl. Honey is very good diet.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Never eat sugar].
Indian (2): [Transl. Not even sugar candy.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Not even sugar candy. Only honey.]
Indian (1): [Transl. Honey.]
Indian (2): [Transl. That too is not direct. Mix it with water or fruit juice.]
Indian (1): [Transl. This honey will also give you energy.]
Indian (2): [Transl. You know this swelling, if you take honey for seven days and things start to function, you will see all the swollen boils have come down.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. We have got good quality honey.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. If Prabhupada takes honey for one week, its…]
Indian (2): [Transl. Honey will also help in clear motion.This honey.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. If you explain to him, he can do everything. Start now.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Try today little now.]
Indian (2): [Transl. Do you get sleep?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. What?]
Indian (2): [Transl. Do you get sleep?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Whole year I don't sleep at night. I write books . [indistinct conversation] Jayapataka will show everything.]
Jayapataka: [Transl. Yes I will show.]
Prabhupada: [break] What is the rate?
Brahmananda: I'm not sure.
Visala: He said it was sixty-eight, sixty-nine, when we were there last time.
Brahmananda: But then Harjibhai Patel came and...
Prabhupada: Harjibhai?
Brahmananda: Diamond Press. So his sons are in London, and he wants to start a business there in September, but he didn't want to do so without your blessing. Because you gave blessing for his daughter's marriage, so he's always thinking that if you give blessing, then it will come out nicely.
[Prabhupada laughs]
Prabhupada: So who will worship the Deity?
Brahmananda: His wife. They have... The town where they live, there is no temple.
Prabhupada: But they have to observe the rules and regulations.
Brahmananda: Yes. I told him that everything must be... There must be offerings throughout the day, at least three times a day, and then aratis performed morning and evening.
Prabhupada: He has agreed?
Brahmananda: Yes, he will do these things. They will do. With a wife they can do these things, bathing the Deity and so forth.
Prabhupada: Hmm. [break]
Ramesvara: No, he said he couldn't work there because it was too hot.
Prabhupada: He could not work there?
Gargamuni: Well, during the day the electricity goes off all over Vrndavana.
Prabhupada: Oh. So it is not that...
Gargamuni: It is not that he is turning it off.
Prabhupada: Oh. [Transl. Have my blessings. Come Bhagatji come.]
Bhagatji: [Transl. From 9:30 am there is no electricity.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. This] Imitation civilization finished. [Transl. In whole Punjab there was no electricity for three hours.]
Bhagatji: Yes.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Prabhupada: No, that's right. I can understand.
Gargamuni: And when I lived there, there were many nights and days..., nights when we had to work with candlelight. So it's a fact. The power does go off.
Prabhupada: Anyway, that's all right. I want that he should not play any trick. That's all.
Prabhupada: Then it's all right. No, in the court also there is a trick. There is no name, our.
Indian man: No name.
Indian man: Prabhupada's name is not there. Within the...
Gargamuni: No, his case is...
Indian man: ...offendant and defendant, no name of Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: Yes, but we have got to do, everything to do. I told you. Tamala said.
Prabhupada: We'll break it.
Gargamuni: Oh, yes. I'll break it.
Prabhupada: We shall kick it and break it. Then we shall see.
Devotees: Jaya!
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Gargamuni: Some puja. If we had a deity of yourself within the rooms and we...
Prabhupada: No, first of all go on with the picture. Let us settle that. Then...
Gargamuni: Well, we had talked with the lawyer also, and he said this was a very good idea. He said it was a good idea because if there's a deity there, then they can never take those rooms because it has some sentimental religious value.
Prabhupada: So then do it.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Gargamuni: Oh, yes. Yes, that we have to talk about.
Prabhupada: Then there must be regular prasada-making and offering...
Gargamuni: Then no court can take away those rooms, because there's worship of a deity.
Prabhupada: [Transl. So? Is that alright?]
Bhagatji: [Transl. Yes. The lawyer has given the right decision. Very good. There is no question.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Then have it done like that.]
Bhagatji: [Transl. He will think today was his appearance day.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. We all are ready. Do whatever is needful.]
Gargamuni: And we can put some stone plaque, that "This place is a holy place."
Prabhupada: I think there is already.
Prabhupada: That's all right.
Prabhupada: [laughs] Accha?
Atreya Rsi: On Second Avenue.
Prabhupada: Twenty-six?
Prabhupada: How you can get it?
Atreya Rsi: I'm going to New York in a week, and I can try to either purchase it...
Prabhupada: If you can maintain it, then it is all right. That, you mean to say, that storefront or the whole building?
Gargamuni: The rear apartment or the storefront?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Atreya Rsi: Both storefront and the building.
Prabhupada: Oh. I, I know that that building was several times changed hands.
Atreya Rsi: Yes. I can find out who it belongs to.
Prabhupada: But the difficulty will be how to maintain the tenants. To purchase the house is not difficult.
Atreya Rsi: Vacate it? To vacate it.
Prabhupada: Vacate? What you will do?
Atreya Rsi: We will have devotees stay, and it's a regular... It's a holy place.
Atreya Rsi: Well, the upstairs we can rent to people, and the place where Prabhupada lived could be a pilgrimage.
Prabhupada: As soon as you rent, it become botheration.
Atreya Rsi: No, your apartment can be a place of pilgrimage.
Indian man: [Transl. The law is the same everywhere.]
Prabhupada: Hah. As soon as you rent out, then botheration.
Prabhupada: Yes, it was when I was there. [laughter]
Gargamuni: That's what we were. [laughter]
Prabhupada: I did not know. I occupied. Otherwise nobody was taking.
Atreya Rsi: We can make a library.
Prabhupada: And library means these negroes will go to read? They'll go for drinking.
Atreya Rsi: But...
Atreya Rsi: Yes.
Atreya Rsi: Yes. But it's a great... It's an important spot.
Prabhupada: That is dangerous portion of New York City. Just after my house they were regularly drinking and... Negroes. I didn't care. Neither they did any harm to me. Bowery Street. And still, I was there.
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Tamala Krsna: We had thought about this previously. The difficulty, we felt, was just that no one will... To make it... Unless it was used as a temple now, simply to keep it as some room for a few people to see once every month or two when they pass through New York, that's not living. It should be alive.
Prabhupada: Hmm.
Atreya Rsi: But fifty years...
Prabhupada: No, so many houses, they are lying vacant. Nobody goes there.
Atreya Rsi: For ten, twenty years we will keep it, and in future we may... It may be a great place of pilgrimage for the whole world.
Prabhupada: That future hope [laughs] you cannot invest money in, waste. That's not good.
Prabhupada: Then you can do anything.
Prabhupada: Yes, then we can deliver them.
Prabhupada: They are, after all, simple. These negroes, they are, after all, simple. We have to train them. You have got now experience in Detroit. They are very good-behaving with us. They come to our temple. Nobody could dare there. Therefore we could acquire that house so cheap.
Prabhupada: Yes. Our Ambarisa, he was very much eager: "Oh, don't mind. Take it. We shall arrange."
Prabhupada: Yes. Fifty years ago the cost was six million dollars, and we have purchased, only three hundred thousand.
Prabhupada: Oh, it is very first class, palatial building. You have seen?
Gargamuni: No, Srila Prabhupada. I've seen photos.
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Prabhupada: Very, very nice. Better than our France palace.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: Even in the bathroom.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: There's gold on the ceiling.
Prabhupada: All very aristocratic, very aristocratic. What is aristocracy, that is displayed there.
Tamala Krsna: Those people, they always used to look from the outside in, but they were never allowed to come in. The people from that neighborhood, they used to stare within, wondering what is inside there. Now, since we have come, we have opened our gates and doors and said, "Please come." Oh, they're very much happy to come in and see everything.
Prabhupada: They're grave. They behave very nicely.
Ramesvara: Tourists.
Prabhupada: The boats were sold by cheating our... Who was in charge of that?
Prabhupada: No, GBC?
Ramesvara: Jayatirtha is now.
Prabhupada: Jagadisa.
Devotee: [aside:] He sold the boats?
Prabhupada: He made some profit. Actually the boat belonged to the house. Anyway, palace is palace. Very big, big rooms. Now it would have cost ten million dollars. And we have paid only three percent of ten million. Is it not? Three hundred thousand?
Ramesvara: Govardhana wants to have dolls on the outside grounds.
Prabhupada: Do. Yes, very good. You do.
Ramesvara: 'Cause they have so much lands, so right outside the temple there'll be doll exhibits for all the tourists.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Tamala Krsna: Yeah, we saw something like that in Rishikesh. Just recently we went to Rishikesh, and in one asrama they have doll exhibits of all the avataras. Oh, it was very... Of all krsna-lila. And each doll exhibit is within a little temple, dome-shaped temple. People go and look, and there's a plaque which describes what it is. Very nice.
Ramesvara: We'll have more than a plaque.
Prabhupada: Doll exhibition you can have in this temple also. People will come to see.
Prabhupada: Where is suitable.
Prabhupada: Yes. Now you can go and take rest. Again you can come at one. What is the time now?
Prabhupada: That's all.
Prabhupada: Make just this garland... [break] ...keep hair. Look very beautiful by keeping hair. What is that explanation?
Bhagavata: I was advised that because I was going to the European countries for preaching for some time, that...
Prabhupada: But they, they, they...
Bhagavata: ...it would be required to keep these hairs.
Prabhupada: ...owned victory with the court by keeping shaven hair.
Bhagavata: I asked their advice, whether I should shave or keep the hair.
Prabhupada: Who is that nonsense advice? Who is that rascal? "Advice." By keeping hair you become beautiful and become victimized. "Advice." This is... Without advice, this mentality is going on outside, to keep hair. We are known as shaven hair, whole society.
Prabhupada: Every fortnight.
Prabhupada: At least. Before going to Europe, six years ago, you were keeping hair again: "I have to go to Europe." That I have seen. Everywhere. Those who... You like to keep hair. That hippie mentality is going on. That's right. That is good, very intelligent reasoning, actual, long hair by keeping...[?] Everyone is giving some advice. Gurudasa is giving. "He's keeping. He's..." Gargamuni. Everyone has some explanation. I do not know how you can give up this hippie mentality. Hippie. Lavanyam kesa-dharanam [SB 12.2.6]. Kali-yuga. Victim of Kali-yuga. It is... It is not your fault, but weakness, victimized by Kali-yuga... There are so many things to victimize over the living entities in Kali-yuga, and one of the item is that he will take it that "I have become very, very beautiful, attractive, by keeping long hair." Kesa. That is already stated there. You are victimized by that Kali-yuga. That's all. No explaining. Our trademark is clean-shaven. We are known as shaven hair. Why you should be victimized? You are known as shaven hair. Are you not? Hmm? They say that "Hare Krsna people, shaven hair"?
Prabhupada: Shaven hair. So why you should be victimized by keeping hair? What victory you will gain? Conquer over the whole world, Roman Empire, by keeping hair? Hippie mentality, that's all. That is within the core of the heart. As soon as you get some opportunity... Just like during summer season the field appears to be dried up. And as soon as there is some rain, oh, it is green, immediately green. So things are already there. Hmm? Is it not?
Prabhupada: Now you see to the field. They're all dry. But as soon as there will be rain in the village, all green. So the seeds are there, hippie seeds. As soon as there is some opportunity, come out, green: "Yes, I am beautiful. Come on." But in the courtroom they never addressed. Judge never asked that "Why you are shaven-headed?" Was there any question like that?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. Then cheater.
Prabhupada: That means, of course, indirectly hinted that "Now you are cheating. You are known as shaven-headed. Now you have kept hair. What is the purpose except cheating?"
Hari-sauri: On saṅkirtana all the distributors wear wigs and like that to..., because it's much easier to distribute, to distribute books.
Prabhupada: I do not know all this. Formerly, shaven-headed, they used to distribute. Now it is not possible.
Prabhupada: Encourages?
Prabhupada: Then why don't you dress like European? Half foreign dress and half hair? Who is that foreign and European and gentleman? What is the use of the wig? Keep regular gentleman's hair. There is no need of saffron dress. If by ordinary dress you can sell more book, there is no need of saffron dress. So what is the time now?
Gargamuni: Nine-thirty.
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Prabhupada: What is that?
Bhavananda: Would you like to have kirtana now?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Bhagavata: Well, we only printed two Oriya books. Both were printed in Calcutta so far, because there's one Oriya printer there. Gaura-Govinda Maharaja is investigating completely the... We went around investigating the presses in Cuttack and Bhubaneswar, if we might get some cheaper or easier price. It appears that some things we can do cheaper there, like the inside part, but cover cannot do cheaper there.
Prabhupada: Cover you can get there, cover.
Gargamuni: In Bombay we might be able to do cover much cheaper, and then the inside cheaper in Orissa. That we have...
Prabhupada: Better quality also.
Gargamuni: It is a good quality, similar quality. They agreed, they could get same paper as we had in previous books, but that for printing cover that would be very difficult, they acknowledged.
Prabhupada: And tell, we can get from Bombay cover.
Gargamuni: Oh. But I had written you in the report that out of the first twenty thousand we have printed, still 18,500 are remaining.
Prabhupada: So not selling?
Gargamuni: Because we have very few men. So now Gaura-Govinda is taking on bullocks cart. He'll go to the villages, and he'll distribute. Then some portion of what I will collect, I will put in... I have separate account for book fund and one for construction. Some portion I'll put in book fund. Then we'll print, and I will bring...
Prabhupada: No, if there is money you have, I can give you. There is Book Trust.
Gargamuni: I just feel...
Prabhupada: No.
Gargamuni: ...that so many books are there I have not distributed yet. I will print more and...
Prabhupada: No, no. This will come out. Very good idea. Sell.
Gargamuni: Sell first; then print. I should first sell...
Prabhupada: No, at least you must have three, four varieties.
Gargamuni: Right now we have two varieties.
Prabhupada: So make it four varieties. That will be first class. Don't print twenty thousand. Print five thousand.
Prabhupada: There is no need of coming. This is... You must have at least four, five varieties. And money, if there is scarcity, ask Gopala. He'll give you money. Then sell and return.
Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada? Srila Prabhupada? It's time for massage?
Prabhupada: What is that?
Bhavananda: Time for massage. [break]
Brahmananda: Sixty-five acres.
Prabhupada: He's already Peace Corps[?]?
Brahmananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: Government will like. [end]
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