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Prabhupada: There are... Just note down.
Prabhupada: No, if you teach yoga system, they'll pay for that?
Prabhupada: That is not good.
Prabhupada: One who is not going to learn yoga system, then they have to pay increased rate?
Prabhupada: No, extra facility is... Somebody may be interested in learning yoga, others may not be. So why he should pay more?
Gopala Krsna: Well, we can charge them little more. I am just saying how the other establishments are running, because this is the big attraction to get people, and almost every foreigner will be interested in this. This is like... It's not that they are really getting it free, because we are covering ourselves by increasing the rates and the restaurant...
Prabhupada: You are covering, but those who are not interested, why they should pay more? That is my point.
Prabhupada: When they understand that you have got such discrimination, they are dissatisfied.
Gopala Krsna: No, what we have done, we have added in various different points like extra bedsheet, one rupee; extra this... We have added in these extra points. So the total does come to fifteen and twenty. I have spoken to all the travel agencies, and they are willing to go along with us. In fact, they think that fifteen and twenty-five is very cheap. But I then explain to them that we can't make it any more because we are in competition with...
Prabhupada: But you don't get customer even lesser than that. First of all see your position. You may calculate in the mind that "This is cheap; this is not," but cheap or no cheap, you are not getting any customers. [chuckling]
Prabhupada: And now, in the Sixth Chapter there are forty-seven verses. So divide forty-seven with seven.
Jagadisa: Almost seven.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Forty-seven verses should be divided by seven. So daily seven verses, average, one class.
Jagadisa: No, you said three hours a day.
Prabhupada: One hour... To explain seven verses may take more than one hour. It will take not less than two hours.
Prabhupada: So practice two hours and one hour class. And the yoga class, they should be given the seat cailajina, ajina, kusottaram.
Prabhupada: Seat. One straw... That... What is called? Kusa...
Prabhupada: ...very nice, nice, and broad, especially. Upon this, there is a deerskin.
Prabhupada: And how you will get? Why you are asking this nonsense question? Unless you get, why you waste time in that way? Where is...? Have you got? This is extra question. You must get.
Prabhupada: So first of all this kusasana, then the deerskin, and then a linen. Cailajina...
Jagadisa: Cotton cloth?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No. So they will sit down, and perpendicularly. Perpendicularly, if you sit in this way, then you will automatically you become perfect yogi. Automatically. This should be practiced. In every class they should sit down with like this, like this, and they will not close the eyes, but half-closed, and see here.
Jagadisa: They supposed to look cross-eyed? In order to look at the tip of the nose...
Prabhupada: That's all.
Jagadisa: ...you have to look cross-eyed?
Prabhupada: Why cross? You see, just easy, simply. That's all. This...
Prabhupada: Yes. This has to be practiced.
Prabhupada: And then they should be given lesson on six or seven verses very elaborately, and they will hear.
Prabhupada: So simple thing.
Prabhupada: So one, first, seven sloka they'll hear, then next class, they'll go to the next, in the next class, and next class, next class. In this way, one after another, within seven days they'll get the whole lesson.
Prabhupada: Two hours.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Not total three hours.
Prabhupada: There is no "I was thinking." This is nonsense. We must do according to the...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Hari-sauri: That was my idea, that they should chant half an hour japa before class, and then sit in the posture and then have the philosophy, because the chanting... First of all explain the purpose of chanting to fix the mind; then, once they've chanted, then they can sit and they can listen, and because they've chanted, they'll be that much more attentive.
Prabhupada: Yes, that's good idea. That's good idea. First chanting, second chanting.
Prabhupada: Then lesson, take lesson. And then chant another...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: At last kirtana.
Prabhupada: And the class will be changed-first seven verses explain. Next verse, next seven... In this way, today this room, next day that room, next day that room, next day that room.
Prabhupada: Room. That will be class, not in the same. Because if somebody is hearing the first seven slokas, then how the..., who are on the second seven slokas, that will be...
Prabhupada: Yes. So in this way we have to occupy seven rooms, big rooms.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No, why? Why?
Prabhupada: But if we are in scarcity of such intelligent men, then close it. What is this nonsense?
Prabhupada: So that will depend on practice. You practice it.
Prabhupada: That's all right. Then why...? You become expert. If you cannot find out seven men, then what is this institution? Anyway, one may not be very expert, but he should practice how to explain. The explanation is there. He has to simply do it very nicely, that's all. Everything is there. And the students should sit down in that way here. That's all. It's not at all difficult.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Prabhupada: That is seven days.
Jagadisa: Yes. But they don't stagger it.
Prabhupada: Yes, that's all right. But what is the difficulty? He is... On Monday he is hearing in one room, and Tuesday another room, and Thursday another room. So where is the difficulty?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: I mean you cannot give two kinds of classes in one room. That is not possible. That is nonsense. Even if you have got one student, he must be in that particular class. You cannot hold all the classes in one room, no. You have to... No, for seven days you have to give seven rooms, even there is one student.
Prabhupada: Yes. Different verses we shall explain. It is different class.
Prabhupada: No, why don't you understand? Why you are dull-headed? The one class is for one set of verses. Where is the difficulty? [break] ...so in the same class, it will be not good.
Prabhupada: No, you have or not have, you have to make this arrangement. In one room one set of verses you should explain. Otherwise, if some student comes, first set of verses explained, and he comes, so you cannot explain the same verses to somebody and next verses somebody in the same class. That is not good.
Prabhupada: Your course will start every Monday? What do you mean by that? Through first... First six verses...
Prabhupada: That's all. Next six verses, Tuesday.
Prabhupada: No!
Prabhupada: No, no, no. That is your dull brain. On Wednesday also, the first class is going on.
Prabhupada: So why he has to wait?
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. But you are so fertile brain you cannot understand. Why he has to wait?
Jagadisa: We can understand.
Prabhupada: Every class is going on every day. Those who are coming new, they take first lesson in the first room.
Prabhupada: So either it is Wednesday or Monday, it doesn't matter.
Prabhupada: What is that problem?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No lose money.
Jagadisa: There are rooms in the gurukula.
Prabhupada: No, no. Why cannot be used?
Prabhupada: Well, it will be finished by the time your customers...
Prabhupada: All right, it has to be done like that, that all classes are going on every day. One who comes on Wednesday, it does not mean he has to wait. The class is there. It doesn't matter Wednesday or Friday. Next day he goes there, next class; next day he goes, next class. The difficulty may be that we have to set aside seven rooms. That we have got, room.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No, no. Gurukula building.
Prabhupada: Gurukula building is meant for instruction, and the guesthouse is meant for boarding and lodging. That's all.
Prabhupada: By month, it will be done. The gurukula downstairs will be ready.
Prabhupada: If not, for the temporary you can hold somewhere. That doesn't matter. But the system will be this education will be given in the gurukula building.
Prabhupada: But first of all, you make one successful here. Then you think of other.
Prabhupada: This is exercise. If he sits down two hours like that, it is more than exercise.
Prabhupada: That is the explanation required.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: That is the actual fact. You read that portion.
Prabhupada: They cannot dictate. That is not...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes, he can dance. He can dance.
Prabhupada: Dance and chant. This is best exercise. We allow them to dance very... Yes. High jump. Actually that is exercise, and at the same time ecstasy. If they dance and chant Hare Krsna, it is automatically a very big exercise and spiritual advancement. Yes. Yes. There is no doubt about it. If he chants and dances, immediately he become ecstatic.
Prabhupada: Ah! Yes.
Prabhupada: Don't say it is different. It is the authorized.
Prabhupada: It is authorized, and it is taught by Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Others are unauthorized. This is authorized. And that's a fact. This is authorized. And others, those, they are manufactured. Just like they have manufa...
Jagadisa: That's two hours.
Prabhupada: Chanting, dancing.
Prabhupada: They haven't got to attend other classes. Let them chant and dance, kirtana, other one hour. Because here is the class. They'll simply sit down in that yogic posture and hear. That's all. You explain.
Prabhupada: No, no, we are not after business. This is our...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: We are not going to flatter them. If you want to learn, you have to learn according to the authorized way.
Jagadisa: The appeal of these other groups is sex. We're not interested in that.
Jagadisa: Well, it is. That's how they're appealing.
Prabhupada: They are all bogus. Bogus. We are not going to follow the bogus. At least in these seven days they must not have any sex. Then he will learn. They'll get some benefit.
Prabhupada: They will have to take thrice bath and eat frugally, not voraciously. If they want real treatment, that will benefit them. If they have got some ideas of yoga and we have to cheat them, that is impossible.
Jagadisa: Why should we have to cheat them?
Prabhupada: They want to be cheated, but we cannot cheat. For getting some customer you have to flatter them-that is not possible. And while explaining the slokas, you have to stress on this point, that this is bona fide; all others are cheating. That requires on your preaching power.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No, you can make a booklet, the Sixth Chapter explained, and posture, how to sit. That sitting down, that will attract.
Prabhupada: That sitting posture will attract them. Give them figure, "This is the posture of sitting," and they will hear.
Gopala Krsna: Or... Yes. We can have some pictures of people. And we'll publish your Sixth Chapter, like, just like publishing Sixth Chapter of the Gita with a two-page introduction how this yoga is different from others and this is the guide, the Sixth Chapter of the Bhagavad-gita, the most ancient Hindu scripture, Indian scripture.
Prabhupada: So keep some price for that.
Prabhupada: Make that.
Prabhupada: And dancing.
Prabhupada: So then there is one artist. He has come to paint pictures. Explain. He will give you. Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Yes. Take this idea. Note down. First of all make this brochure.
Prabhupada: So see how you have done.
Prabhupada: No, we have our own shop and...
Prabhupada: Another thing, that... I don't think they are very serious, that... They have paid that 250 rupees rate?
Prabhupada: This bank? They wrote they are going to pay.
Prabhupada: No, they have written 250.
Gopala Krsna: They wrote 250? Visvambhara told me...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Where is that letter?
Jagadisa: Which letter?
Prabhupada: Bank's letter.
Prabhupada: From Gupta, bank letter, Hyderabad.
Prabhupada: Yes. I have replied that letter on the other day. You do not know?
Jagadisa: Oh, yes. You mean about the rent?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jagadisa: Yes, he said 250.
Prabhupada: Yes. Find out that letter.
Prabhupada: Where is the letter? [break]
Prabhupada: But there is no instruction. For women there is no such thing.
Prabhupada: That is bogus, another bogus.
Prabhupada: Women cannot do it.
Prabhupada: Normal dress, that is standard.
Prabhupada: These are artificial things.
Prabhupada: For woman there is no such...
Jagadisa: I think we should avoid women altogether. Avoid women altogether?
Prabhupada: But they cannot practice. They cannot sit down like this, the women. They'll be tired. This is real practice.
Jagadisa: So what's the conclusion?
Jagadisa: So he says... He thinks the conclusion is that the women will be in the class.
Prabhupada: There, but in plain dress. Yes, man must be there.
Prabhupada: Why pant?
Prabhupada: Yes, long robe.
Prabhupada: Namavali. You can have some robe...
Prabhupada: ...some covering.
Prabhupada: And they will understand that they are actually doing something.
Prabhupada: At least twice taking bath and then chanting, dancing and so on.
Prabhupada: They want something. So this is the bona fide method.
Prabhupada: So I have given to you three. Now you jointly do immediately.
Prabhupada: The artist is there. Get painting.
Prabhupada: That's... That's all right.
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