Delhi, November 13, 1971
Prabhupada: Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you very much for your kindly coming here and participating in this Krsna consciousness movement. So I may inform our friends that His Excellency Mr. Jain is a devotee of Lord Ramacandra. I was talking with him. So we are so pleased that you are associating with devotees.
'sadhu-sanga', 'sadhu-sanga'-sarva-sastre kaya
lava-matra sadhu sange sarva siddhi haya
[Cc. Madhya 22.54]
The human life is meant for composing an association where devotees may take part, sadhu-sanga. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is said, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes [SB 5.5.2]. Mahat-seva. Mahat means whose mind has been broadened, not crippled. Cripple-minded man thinks in terms of personal interest or society's interest or community's interest, nation's interest, or international interest. Even international interest is cripple-minded, because there are many planets. If we expand ourself from self-interest to family interest, from family interest to community interest, similarly, even you expand to the international interest, it is imperfect unless your interest is expanded up to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the Vedic injunction in the Rg Veda, om tad visnoh paramam padam sada pasyanti surayah. Those who are advanced in knowledge, their aim is, their interest is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Visnu. Tad visnoh paramam padam. But people do not know what is his self-interest. That is indicated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnu. Everyone should be self-interest. But in this material world, being illusioned, being bewildered by the material energy, we are thinking our self-interest in terms of our particular type of education. Somebody is thinking that "Simply I have to maintain my body somehow or other." Little expanded, thinking interest of society, you go on. But they do not know that the self-interest must expand to Lord Visnu. And that is explained by Prahlada Maharaja.
We are discussing this verse, that
Priya atmesvarah suhrt, visnoh, visnoh padopasarpanam. Our self-interest must reach up to the lotus feet of Lord Visnu. That is perfection. Otherwise whatever interest we create, that is temporary interest and it will be finished and I shall create another interest. That knowledge is lacking in the modern civilization. We are interested in nationalism. That is very good. But we do not know what nationalism was in my past life and what nationalism will be there in my next life. That we do not. Therefore, Prahlada Maharaja says that interest should be to the lotus feet of Lord Visnu as it is indicated, directed by the Vedas, tad visnoh paramam padam. Unfortunately, somehow or other we have forgotten that interest. That is explained by Caitanya Mahaprabhu, anadi bahir-mukha jiva krsna bhuli gela ataeva maya tara golay badhila(?). We do not know when we have forgotten Krsna, our self-interest. And because we have forgotten Krsna, therefore maya, the illusory energy of Krsna, has caught up us. Ataeva maya tara golay badhila(?).
So you are existing in this conditioned state of life fully under the control of maya. Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya, that is stated in the Srimad... Bhagavad-gita. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese.
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
Just try to understand. We are given a kind of machine, yantra, this body, a particular type of machine. Actually it is machine. It is a physiological machine. But the machine has developed by maya prakrti because I wanted it. Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati. Isvarah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His Paramatma feature, antaryami, He is situated in everyone's heart
eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anda-kotim
yac chaktir asti jagad-anda-caya yad-antah
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
Eko 'py asau racayitum. One partial expansion of Lord Krsna, Govinda. The prime factor is Govinda. So in order to create this material world, He has expanded Himself by His one portion, which is known as Visnu-tattva, Maha-Visnu. The Maha-Visnu is described,
jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah
visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-viseso
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
We are getting this information from Lord Brahma, the creator of this particular universe, very authoritative statement by his realization. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, in the beginning, the description of the Lord is given, janmady asya yatah, tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye [SB 1.1.1]. So, first of all He gave instruction, the Lord, janmady asya yatah, from whom everything is emanating. Lord Brahma is also emanating from Him. Tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye. So how Lord Brahma got Vedic instruction? That is answered, hrda. Hrda means through the heart. So the Lord is situated in everyone's heart—in the heart of the Brahma or in the heart of the ant. Not only in the heart but also within the atom. Andantara-stham paramanu-cayantara-stham. Paramanu means atom. So we do not know how many paramanus, atoms, are there. That is impossible to count. Even if you are able to count how many paramanus or atoms are there, still you cannot know what is the limit of God's expansions and qualities. So that God, Krsna, is Vasudeva, all-expansive. So He is sitting in everyone's heart and He is giving opportunity, everyone, whatever he wants to do. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. He is situated there, and He is so kind that the living entity, whatever he is wanting, the Lord is giving him. So this body is also given by God. It is made by the material nature, but it is given by God. Bhramayan sarva-bhutani. Just like we take a vehicle and travel. Similarly, we are wanting to do something, it doesn't matter what, and Krsna as Supersoul, who is sitting within my heart, He is asking this material nature that "You give him such-and-such body so that he can enjoy whatever he likes." So therefore we are getting different types of body, and there are 8,400,000 species of life.
So this body, if you like, you can get the body of a human being, or you can get the body of a tiger, or you can get the body of demigod, or you can get the body of Lord Brahma, or you can get the body of the microbic germ in the stool. This will depend on your work. This is going on. There are innumerable planets, there are innumerable universes, and the living entities are all innumerable, and they are getting innumerable types of bodies, and every account is kept. Now just imagine what is the government of Krsna. And this is being managed, ekamsena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. This whole worldly affair is being managed by one Ksirodakasayi Visnu. This information we get from the sastras.
So our position at the present moment is we are desiring something. We know, every one of us know we have got different desires. Not that everyone has got the same desire. Why you have got different desires? And that different desires means different consciousness. That is also described in the Bhagavad-gita,
Those who are not fixed up, they have got different desires. And because they have got different desires, they are getting different types of body. And because they are getting different types of body, they are rolling on, wandering in different situation, in different planets. But one who has come to the right conclusion of life, he is called vyavasayatmika buddhir eka. Eka means that Lord Visnu. When our desire will becomes fixed up in Lord Visnu, then our life is perfect. But that we do not know. Therefore, bahu-sakha anantas ca buddhi avyavasayinam. Because our mind, because our desire, is not fixed up in Lord Visnu, we are manufacturing different desires, because mind's business is concoction, accepting something, rejecting something. This is going on. But by intelligence we come to a certain conclusion. So one who is above the activities of the mind, manaso para buddhi, one who has learned how to use his intelligence, that art is called buddhi-yogam. Yoga on the platform of intelligence. First of all in the beginning, our platform is sensuous. Indriyani parany ahur [Bg. 3.42]. Material life means sensuous life. But those who are little above, they are on the mental platform—poetry, philosophy, mental speculation. Above this there is intelligence. That intellectual life required. That means we have to transcend the position of the sensuous life, we have to transcend the position of concocted mental speculation, we have to come to the intellectual platform. That intellectual platform is called brahma-jijnasa. Athato brahma jijnasa. Just like Sanatana Gosvami, when he approached Lord Caitanya, he very intellectually asked Lord Caitanya, 'ke ami' kene more jape tapa-traya: "Who am I? Why I am suffering these three kinds of material miserable condition of life?" This is intellectual platform. This is intellectual path. And when we exercise this intellectual path of our life, that is called buddhi-yogam. Buddhi-yogam. Therefore, in the Caitanya-caritamrta it is said, krsna ye bhaje se bada catura. The most intellectual person can become Krsna conscious, not ordinary man. Why? Krsna also confirms this in the Bhagavad-gita,
He is most intellectual, mahatma, whose intelligence has been broadened so that he has understood Krsna, Vasudeva, as everything. Vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma su-durlabhah. Very rare.
So this Krsna consciousness movement, although it appears to be very easy, but it is actually it is very difficult. But by the mercy of Lord Caitanya, it has been made easy. Otherwise it is not very easy. It is made easy in this way, that Krsna says,
Bahunam janmanam ante [Bg. 7.19]. The thing which is achieved after many, many births of intellectual activities, Lord Caitanya says, "Now this is the point. You catch up this." Krsna also says, "You catch up this. Why should you wait for many, many births?" If it is a fact that after many, many births of intellectual exercises you have come to the point of surrendering unto Krsna, Krsna says the most confidential part of knowledge is that "You surrender immediately unto Me."
So those who are actually intelligent, they take this opportunity and surrenders unto Krsna. It is very easy if one accepts easily, but it is very difficult if one does not accept it easily. Otherwise it is very easy. Krsna is canvassing that "You surrender unto Me." Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami [Bg. 18.66]. That is Krsna is giving us the intelligence, buddhi-yogam. And if you surrender, then Krsna says, assures,
Tesam satata-yuktanam. Satata means twenty-four hours. Not that I meditate for fifteen minutes and do all nonsense twenty-four hours. No. Satata-yuktanam. One should be engaged twenty-four hours in the business of Krsna consciousness. That is possible. It is not that it is impossible. You can engage yourself in Krsna consciousness twenty-four hours without any cessation, but you have to know how to do it. That is being taught in Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. But you can do it. And as soon as you take to it, tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam [Bg. 10.10]. Krsna should be worshiped with priti, love, not officially. Of course, in the beginning, we have to be officially. In the beginning, we have to act by the direction of the spiritual master, by the direction of the sastras. But when you practice it by the direction of guru and sastra, sadhu guru sastra va, then gradually you become attached to it.
As I have explained several times, this attachment stage can be achieved under certain process. As Bhagavad-gita, Bhagavan, says,
mayy asakta-manah partha
yogam yunjan mad-asrayah
asamsayam samagram mam
yatha jnasyasi tac chrnu
Krsna is teaching how you can develop your attachment for Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita. We have to take it. We have to understand it. So as soon as we develop this attachment, tesam satata-yuk... Attachment means just like you have got a lover or something lovable object; you cannot live without it. You are always searching, "Where is my lovable object? Where is my..." That is called attachment. That attachment as taught by Lord Caitanya, He says, sunyayitam jagat sarvam govinda-virahena me. This is the final stage of attachment. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is teaching us that "I am feeling everything vacant." Why? "Being separated from Govinda." Sunyayitam jagat sarvam govinda-virahena me. This is the highest stage of attachment. So this Krsna consciousness movement is teaching people how to become attached to Krsna instead of maya. We are attached to maya. We have created so many things just arrangement for forgetting Krsna. Anything we make here for sense enjoyment... (end)