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Pradyumna: Page 39.
Prabhupada: There will be... (too faint)
Pradyumna: Page 39. "I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, by whose mercy even a..."
Prabhupada: No, no. This is... Teachings of Lord Caitanya.
Pradyumna: Page 47. " 'Teachings to Sanatana Gosvami.' In the instructions of Lord Caitanya to Sanatana Gosvami, we can understand the science of God in the matter of His transcendental form, His opulences, and His devotional service, for everything is being described to Sanatana Gosvami by the Lord Himself. At that time, Sanatana fell at the feet of the Lord and with great humility asked about his own real identity. He spoke as follows, 'I am born of a lower family. My associations are all abominable and I am fallen, the most wretched of mankind. I was suffering in the dark well of material enjoyment, and I never knew the actual goal of my life. I do not know what is beneficial to me. Although in the mundane sphere I am what is known as a great, learned man, I am in fact so much of a fool that I even accept that I am learned. You have accepted me as Your servant, and You've delivered me from the entanglement of material life. Now You can tell me what my duty is in this liberated state of life."
Prabhupada: So today is the appearance day of Sri Kaviraja Gosvami, Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami. Therefore we are discussing this evening Teachings of Lord Caitanya, which is the summary study of Caitanya-caritamrta. The most important chapters in the Caitanya-caritamrta, namely, His teachings to Rupa Gosvami, His teachings to Sanatana Gosvami, His talks with Prakasananda Sarasvati, His talks with Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya, and His talks with Ramananda Raya—these five subject matters are delineated in The Teachings of Lord Caitanya specifically.
So the most important chapter of Caitanya's teaching was to Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami. Teachings of Sanatana Gosvami, uh, Rupa Gosvami and Ramananda Gosvami, Ramananda Raya, so they are meant for devotees who are on the second stage. First stage, second stage, and third stage. The first stage is called maha-bhagavata, liberated devotee. And the second stage is via media between the lowest stage and liberated stage. And the lowest stage is called prakrta-bhakta, means persons in material condition gradually being elevated to the supreme position of self-realization. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu dealt with Sanatana Gosvami because he was to write one book for direction, Hari-bhakti-vilasa. You know—his famous book. This is a book giving directions especially to the householders, how to keep oneself on the proper standard of Vaisnava behavior. Later on, Sanatana Gosvami wrote the book Hari-bhakti-vilasa for giving direction, and Rupa Gosvami wrote the Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, "The Science of Devotion." Now, these two brothers met Caitanya Mahaprabhu when they were on their ministerial posts at Maldah, a district in Bengal. So after meeting Caitanya Mahaprabhu, they decided to join with Him fully for propagating the Krsna consciousness movement, and they resigned from their posts. Rupa Gosvami first resigned..., not officially resigned, because he was very much eager to meet Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so he first of all retired. And then Sanatana Gosvami, later on, he wanted to resign in a tactful way, but the Nawab did not like the idea. So he was imprisoned at his house. No, he was actually imprisoned. And later on, Sanatana Gosvami bribed ten thousand gold coins to the jail superintendent and got out of the prison house and went to meet Caitanya Mahaprabhu at Benares.
So when he met, he very humbly approached and he said, "My dear Lord, I am born of lower family." Actually, he was born of a sarasvata-brahmana family, but because he associated with the mlecchas and yavanas, the Muhammadans, so they were rejected from the brahmana community, and therefore he represented himself as having born of a lower family. "My associations are all abominable." Ordinary men, especially he was mixing with the Mohammedans, they were habituated to drinking, meat-eating, which have become a fashion in the gentleman's society nowadays. So he considered himself as fallen. "The most wretched of mankind..." If a human being does not take advantage of this opportunity to have a human form of life, then he's missing the point. In the Bhagavad-gita the Lord says... (much talking in background) (aside:) Stop them.
Prabhupada: Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah. Naradhama means "lowest of the mankind." Anyone who does not accept the Supreme Personality of Godhead and does not surrender unto Him, he is considered the lowest of the mankind. It is not sectarian. It is a fact. Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead says Himself. If we say somebody that "You are the lowest of the mankind because you, you are not Krsna conscious," it may be called sectarian view, but when the Lord, Himself, says that,
Asuri-bhavam asritah. There are two classes of men: asuri-bhavam asritah and daivi-prakrtim asritah. In the Bhagavad-gita you'll find these two words. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah [Bg. 9.13]. Those who are mahatmanas, broad-minded... Mahatma means broad-minded. And duratma means cripple-minded, just the opposite word. Duratma. Dura means far away from Krsna consciousness, dura atma. And mahatma... Mahan, mahato mahiyan, Krsna. So whose atma is attached to the Supreme, the great, he's called mahatma.
So duratma means one who is under the influence of this material nature, far, far away from Krsna. This material nature actually situated many, many, many, many thousands and millions of miles far away from Vaikunthaloka. This universe is unlimited according to our measurement. And beyond this universe there is the spiritual world, paravyoma. And far, far away, the topmost planet of the spiritual world is Krsnaloka. So those who are in this material world, actually they are duratma in this sense that they are far, far away from the planet which is known as Krsnaloka, or Goloka Vrndavana. This Vrndavana is the replica of that original Vrndavana. Because when Krsna comes on this planet He appears in this spot of land, Vrndavana. Just like when the governor goes somewhere, they have got a circuit house. It is something like that. And there is no difference between that original Vrndavana and this Vrndavana.
So mahatma, they are always attached with Krsna. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah [Bg. 9.13]. They are no longer under the influence of this material nature. Anyone who surrenders to Krsna, takes Krsna everything, is no longer under the influence of this material nature. That is the significance. If one is fully surrendered to Krsna, fully attached to Krsna, the symptoms will be seen that he's no more attached to material enjoyment. Just like these Gosvamis. These Gosvamis, they were very highly posted, ministers. They were not ordinary men. Big, big ministers in the government. But because they became attached to Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Krsna, they gave up their posts. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim. Tyaktva means giving up; turnam, immediately. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim. Mandala-pati means leaders. They were called... (aside:) One will do, not two.
Devotees: One, one, once.
Prabhupada: Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tucchavat. Tucchavat means very significant. They did not give any importance to the ministerial post. Here in the material world, if you get a nice government service, what to speak of to become minister, then we are very much proud. But the Gosvamis thought of their posts as very insignificant. Without thinking like that, how they can give it up? Param drstva nivartate [Bg. 9.59]. You cannot by force become renounced order of life. When you see something better than your present engagement, then you can be renounced. After accepting renounced order of life, if I am still attached to these material things, then that is not advancement. So these Gosvamis, Sanatana Gosvami, Rupa Gosvami, they gave up their posts. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tucchavat bhutva dina-ganesakau krpaya kaupina-kantasritau. Kaupina, the underwear, loincloth, and a torn quilt, and a kuranga, That was their possessions. And they used to live underneath one tree, and next day another tree. In this way, in this Vrndavana... First of all, Sanatana Gosvami came here after taking instruction from Lord Caitanya in Benares. And Madana Gopala's temple you have seen, old. He was living there underneath a tree. There was no temple at that time. The temple was constructed later on. So this Sanatana Gosvami, just after giving up his ministerial post, with great difficulty, he came to Benares and Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave him instruction for two months for guiding the Vaisnava principles. So he's approaching his spiritual master with humble attitude. Therefore he's speaking like that. "I am born of lower family. My associations are all abominable, and I am fallen." Actually, he was minister. He was coming of a brahmana family. But these material qualifications are not sufficient to improve one's Krsna consciousness. One must approach a bona fide spiritual master. That is being exhibited by Sanatana Gosvami. He's approaching the original spiritual master, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, with due humbleness. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21]. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet samit-pani srotriyam brahma-nistham [MU 1.2.12]. One must approach. Sanatana Gosvami's teaching us the Vaisnava principle that one should approach a proper spiritual master. So he's approaching Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So one may argue that "Where is Caitanya Mahaprabhu now? Where is Krsna now?" It doesn't matter. Krsna's words are there. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's words are there. Instructions are there. So if we follow the direction and instruction of Caitanya Mahaprabhu or Krsna under the guidance of a superior, bona fide spiritual master, then we associate with Krsna or Caitanya Mahaprabhu without any deviation.
So "lowest of the mankind..." Now if somebody's not Krsna conscious, and if we say that "You are lowest of the mankind," a very, very strong word used... A gentleman, suppose he's not a devotee of Krsna, but if we say that "You are the lowest of the mankind," he'll be certainly very angry, that "I am such a nice gentleman, and you are talking of me as the lowest of the mankind." But actually the fact is this. Tavac ca sobhate murkho yavad kincit na hvayate, sabhayam vastra-vesthitah.(?) There is a normal instruction that a so-called gentleman, nicely dressed in the assembly of human society, may appear to be very nice so long he does not speak. But he's, if he speaks nonsense, without Krsna consciousness, immediately he becomes the lowest of the mankind. If he proves by his speaking that he has no knowledge in Krsna consciousness, he's simply well dressed, that's all... That we are finding all over the world. They are very nicely dressed, they have got very nice car, but if we ask him about God consciousness, they say, "Sir, after finishing this body, everything is finished." This is their knowledge. Therefore they are the lowest of the mankind. Lowest of the mankind means that in the human form of life he was supposed to know that life is eternal and the soul is changing different types of bodies on account of karma, different types of activities. But although the gentleman is well dressed, he does not know. He does not know what is going to happen in his next life. Neither he believes in the next life. This is the position of the modern civilization. So anyone in that ignorance is called the lowest of the mankind, naradhama. If you say, "How I can say this gentleman, nicely dressed gentleman, lowest of the mankind? He has already passed his university education. He has got big, big degrees. And how I can say that he's the lowest of the mankind?" the answer is given by Krsna. I do not require to answer. The answer is given there: mayaya apahrta-jnana. Mayaya. Certainly he's educated. He has got degrees. That's all right. But the essence of his knowledge has been taken away by maya. Mayaya apahrta-jnana asuri-bhavam asritah. Essence of knowledge is Krsna. That he has no idea, what is Krsna. This is the position of asuri-bhavam asritah. The mahatmanas tu daivi-prakrtim asritah, and the naradhamas, there are, there are asuri-bhavam asritah. Just like Hiranyakasipu and his son, Prahlada. Prahlada is mahatma. Daivi-prakrtim asritah. And Hiranyakasipu is demon. He is mayaya apahrta-jnana asuri-bhavam asritah. There are two classes of men, daivi-prakrtim asritah and asuri-bhavam asritah.
So this Krsna consciousness movement is to induce people to become daivi-prakrtim asritah instead of becoming asuri-bhavam asritah. So how this can be done? This is possible if you approach Caitanya Mahaprabhu or His representative. Just like Sanatana Gosvami. He's approaching Caitanya Mahaprabhu with right humbleness, that "I am lowest of the mankind, most abominable associated." Therefore the Bhagavata says, "Who requires a guru?" Guru is not a fashion, that "Everyone has a guru. Let me possess a guru, and let me do all nonsense." Not like that. One must be very serious to accept a guru. Unless one is very serious... What is that seriousness? The seriousness is to know God, "What is God? What is my relationship with Him?" This is seriousness. Those who are not serious to know God and act godly, they do not require to seek after a guru. There is no necessity. Don't make it a fashion to have a guru. Generally, they make it a fashion that "Everyone has a guru, so let me have a guru also." No. The Bhagavata says, gives this direction, tasmad gurum prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21]. Gurum prapadyeta. To approach guru means fully surrendered unto him. As Krsna demands, mam ekam saranam vraja. Therefore when I have to surrender, I have to surrender to the Supreme and the representative of the Supreme. They are surrendered. Not anywhere. So Bhagavata says, gives this direction, tasmad gurum prapadyeta. Gurum prapadyeta. To approach guru means fully surrendered unto him. As Krsna demands, mam ekam saranam vraja. Therefore when I have to surrender, I have to surrender to the Supreme and the representative of the Supreme. They are surrendered. Not anywhere.
So Bhagavata says: tasmad gurum prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21]. You surrender to a guru. Why? Jijnasu sreya uttamam. Unless you are inquisitive to learn about the Supreme, the transcendence, then you find out a suitable representative of Krsna, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and surrender. Tad vidhi pranipatena. Pranipata. Prakrsta-rupena nipata. Pra means prakrsta-rupena, and pranipata. Prakrsta-rupena nipata: fall down. Tad vidhi pranipatena pariprasnena. First of all, pranipata. You cannot inquire challengingly to the guru. Just like Arjuna did it, pranipata. Sisyas te'ham sadhi mam prapannam [Bg. 2.7]. So this pranipata required. And before pranipata, you must... Everyone has got his personal, puffed-up attitude: "Why shall I surrender?" That is the material disease. We do not wish to surrender. We think that "I am equal with Him. Why shall I surrender?" So, but our, this Vaisnava philosophy, especially, begins with this pranipata. Just like Sanatana Gosvami has left his highly-salaried post, ministership, and he has come to surrender unto Caitanya Mahaprabhu. That is the beginning of spiritual life. He's a learned man, highly learned man in Sanskrit and Arabian language. Just like during British period we learned English, and it has now become established fact. I am Indian. I am speaking in Indian, uh, in English. Of course, I am speaking between, before Englishing public, but still in India, English is still predominant. Similarly, when there was Muhammadan kingdom, people learned Sanskrit, Arabian, and Persian languages. So Sanatana Gosvami was expert; both Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami were expert in three languages: Sanskrit, Arabian, and Persian. So he was not a fool. He was very learned man. From his later contributions, we can see how highly learned he was, he, how he gave references from Vedic literatures in their writings, Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, Lila-smaranam and others, books.
So unless one approaches a bona fide spiritual master, his so-called knowledge has no value. mayaya apahrta-jnana. This atheistic view of life means he has no knowledge. Anyone who denies the existence of God, superior authority of God, he must be considered as mayaya apahrta-jnana, asuri-bhavam asritah. "I was suffering in the dark well of material enjoyment, and I never knew the actual goal of my life." That is the position of everyone. We get here a little material opulence and we forget our real business. We remain intoxicated in material enjoyment and forget the real business of life. That is a great blunder. So Narottama dasa Thakura has sung this fact: hari hari viphale, janama gonainu. "My dear Lord, I have simply spoiled my life." How? Manusya janama paiya, radha krsna na bhajiya, janiya suniya visa khainu. Any human being who has no knowledge of Krsna consciousness, he's committing suicide. Janiya suniya, knowingly, knowingly. Everyone should know, at least, that human life is meant for developing Krsna consciousness, and if he, if he knows, at least he gets this information... Just like we are broadcasting this information all over the world, that everyone should become Krsna conscious. So in spite of this knowledge, broadcast of this knowledge, if a person does not take advantage of this movement, then it is to be understood that knowingly he's drinking poison. Janiya suniya visa khainu.
So why it is so important? Golokera prema dhana. Because it is coming from Goloka Vrndavana. This transcendental sound, Hare Krsna maha-mantra, Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, they are coming from Goloka Vrndavana. Just like you receive through radio machine news from distant place, thousands and thousands of miles away. Now the instruments have improved. They are trying to get information from other planets also. That's nice. But there is another machine which can give you information of the Goloka Vrndavana. That machine is nothing manufactured by the material scientists. But there is a machine. What is that machine? That machine is this guru-parampara. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayoh viduh [Bg. 4.2]. If you receive the message by the guru-parampara... The first guru is Krsna. Next guru is Lord Brahma. Next guru is Narada. Next guru is Vyasadeva. Next guru is Madhvacarya. And so many others. And their branches. In this way, Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Then the Gosvamis. Then Srinivasa, Srinivasa Acarya, Narottama dasa Thakura. In this way, the parampara is coming. So this is the machine. How I can understand this machine is correct? Yes, it is correct. How it is correct? You can corroborate. The Bhagavad-gita says, the original machine, Krsna, says, sarva-dharman parityaja mam ekam saranam vraja. So the same message is being broadcast in the Krsna consciousness movement. What we are speaking? We are speaking, "Give up everything. Just surrender to Krsna." Is not that the same machine? If you keep the words, the vibration of the machine the same, then it is the same machine. You get the correct information. Krsna is speaking-about Himself, about His abode, about the spiritual world, the activities. Krsna is speaking everything in the Srimad-Bhagavata, in Bhagavad-gita. And we don't require to change unnecessarily. If we present the same thing as it is, as we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is, then the machine is there. You can get all the information. There is no difficulty. Just like you are getting by the present machine, radio machine, the message from far, distant place. Similarly, you can get all the information of the spiritual world by the proper machine. The Bhagavad-gita received through the parampara, disciplic succession of bona fide spiritual masters. It is not difficult.
So Sanatana Gosvami is receiving the message of the spiritual world through the exigency of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So the teachings of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is there. Caitanya-caritamrta is there. If you study scrutinizingly Caitanya Mahaprabhu's teachings to Sanatana Gosvami, then you also get the machine. There is no difficulty. And as soon as you get the machine, and if you know how to handle it properly, then you get all the information. It is not difficult. And how to handle properly the machine, that is being taught by example, personal example by Sanatana Gosvami, that he's approaching Caitanya Mahaprabhu very humbly. He's not proud of his past position that he was a minister, he was a moneyed man, rich man, born of a brahmana family and so on, so on. He's humbly presenting him that "I am the most fallen. I am the most fallen." So "I never knew the actual goal of my life. I do not know what is beneficial to me." That is the position of everyone. Nobody knows what is the ultimate goal of life. They think that "We have got this body, and let us enjoy the senses to the fullest extent. That is the highest perfection of life." Get some material education-technologist, or something else, material education-get some good post, get good salary, and eat nicely, drink nicely, and enjoy your senses. This is perfection of life. This is going on all over the world. But that is not the goal of life. Therefore, because that is not the goal of life, and we know that this is goal of life, therefore we require the enlightenment from a bona fide spiritual master. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. That is the Vedic instruction. In order to learn that transcendental science, you must approach a bona fide spiritual master. And Sanatana Gosvami, although the most learned scholar, born of a brahmana family, highly posted, opulent, still he's approaching very humbly to a spiritual master. That is the way. He's teaching us by his life example that, without approaching spiritual master, you cannot have any spiritual enlightenment. That is not possible. You must approach a bona fide spiritual master and serve him. Tad vidhi pranipatena. First of all surrender unto him, and then you question along with seva. While serving, you can put some questions which you do not understand properly.
Now Sanatana Gosvami says that "Although in the mundane sphere I am what is known as a great, learned man..." Sanatana Gosvami informed Caitanya Mahaprabhu: gramya vyavahare kahaye pandita. Just like in India, you'll find there is a system. A brahmana is addressed, "Panditji." Still, that is the etiquette. A brahmana is addressed as "Panditji," a ksatriya is addressed as "Thakura Saheb," and a vaisya is addressed as a "Sethji" and a sudra is addressed as "Choudhari." They have got respect for everyone. So Sanatana Gosvami was not a false pandita. Nowadays... I have seen in Calcutta one brahmana with thread, he was pulling on thela. So somebody addressed him "Panditaji." So that sort of panditaji was not Sanatana Gosvami, that without any knowledge he was pulling on thela, and he's also a panditaji. Not like that. He was actually pandita. He was very learned scholar. But he knew his position, that "Although my friends, my admirers, my assistants, my subordinates, they address me Panditaji, but actually I am not pandita." He said, gramya-vyavahare kahe pandita, satya kari mani, apanara hitahita kichui nahi jani! Gramya-vyavahare. Gramya means ordinary deals, ordinary dealings social etiquette. "They call me Panditaji, but actually I do not know what is the aim of my life, what is my constitutional position." Ke ami, kene amaya jare tapa-traya. "I do not know why these threefold miserable conditions of material existence is troubling me. I do not want them."
So this is the real position of everyone. One may be materially, academically very learned, so-called learned, but he does not know what is the aim of life, why he's put in this material condition, ke ami kene amaya jare tapa-traya. They are trying, tapa-traya, and miseries of life, we know. There is heat and cold, adhyatmika, adhibhautika, adhidaivika. These are miseries. And there are problems—birth, death, old age and disease. But we do not know from which source they are coming, and they are being enforced upon us, and still we are proud of our education. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore sings, jada-vidya jato mayara vaibhava tomara bhajane badha. The more we become so-called materially advanced, means we are entangled with the network of maya.
jada-vidya jato mayara vaibhava tomara bhajane badha
anitya samsare moho janamiya jivake koroye gadha
So anitya samsara, this material atmosphere, it is anitya. Anitya means temporary. Although temporary, I shall live here, say, for fifty years or hundred years. Still, I am very much busy to make adjustment of my, this temporary living condition. Everyone is busy: how to have a house, how to have nice bank balance, how to be secure nationally, this way, that way. We are embarrassed with so many problems. But at any time, at any moment, the notice may come: "Please vacate this place." We have to do that. But we do not take care of this.
nunam pramattah kurute vikarma
yad indirya-pritaya aprnoti
na sadhu manye yata atmano 'yam
asann api klesada asa dehah
Asann api. This body, asann api, it will not exist forever. It is temporary, but it is troublesome always. Adhyatmika, adhibhautika, adhidaivika. Three kinds of miseries are always there. So Bhagavata says that we are mad, pramattah kurute vikarma, and doing all sorts of mischievous activities for sense gratification. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya [SB 5.5.4]. Indriya-pritaih: simply for the satisfaction of the senses. Tons of beef are sold simply for satisfaction of the tongue. The tongue becomes dry... And a great trade is going on in India, everywhere, in your country also—cigarettes. It has no necessity, but simply for the satisfaction, temporary satisfaction of the tongue, this great trade is going on. So just vikarma. In this country, there is no such government... But in your country, perhaps you know, in every cigarette package, packet it is written it is dangerous for health or what is that?
Devotee: Yes, yes. "Warning: The surgeon general has determined that cigarette smoking may be hazardous to your health."
Prabhupada: Yes. So the warning is there. But still they're smoking. Why? Pramattah. And vikarma. They have given warning that it is not good for health. Warning is there in every cigarette package, packet, but because he has become mad after that bidi and cigarette, he kurute vikarma. Although it is forbidden, he's still taking advantage of it. Just see how Bhagavata writes frankly: nunam pramattah kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4]. Pramattah. These mad persons, persistently committing sinful activities, nunam pramattah kurute vikarma. Why? Yad indriya pritaya aprnoti, simply for the satisfaction of sense. Not for the satisfaction of Krsna. Krsna's satisfaction is that "You give up all this nonsense. Simply surrender unto Me." But instead of surrendering to Krsna, he has surrendered to bidi and cigarette. Yes. This is going on. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti [SB 5.5.4]. Rsabhadeva said, "This is My proposal." Na sadhu manye. "My dear friends, you are doing wrong." Na sadhu manye yata atmano 'yam asann api klesada asa dehah. Atmanah, the spirit soul, atma, is pure, but because you wanted to smoke bidi and cigarette, you have got this body. Otherwise, spirit soul is pure.
So you have already got this body at the present moment. And that is klesa-dah, always giving misery. Everyone has got experience. So again you are committing sinful activities to get another material body. This is not good. This is not good. Na sadhu manye yata atmano 'yam klesa-dah. You, you have already got experience, by your past mischievous activities, you have got this body which is always full of miseries and painful. Still, you are committing the same sinful activities so that you'll get another body to enjoy. Krsna will give you; so long you have a pinch of material desire, Krsna will give you opportunity: "All right, you take another body and enjoy." But we foolish people, we do not know acceptance of material body is the source of all miserable conditions. Therefore Krsna says, "You simply try to understand." Janma karma me divyam. Simply try to understand Krsna. Then the result will be tyaktva deham punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. No more material body. This is Krsna consciousness movement. We want to stop these nonsense habits of the people. No illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling. (old women talking in background) Oh, who is talking? Don't talk. (Hindi?) So this Krsna consciousness movement is the only propaganda to save man from the pitfalls of another material life, miserable condition, but to take him to the blissful life, eternal life, back to home, back to Godhead. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9].
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