Room Conversation – January 29, 1977, Bhubaneswar

And you are all GBC. Tell, 'This is not good'

Prabhupada: Live a gentle life. We don't allow divorce. Is that not good? Where is that check?

Hari-sauri: Two checks. There were two checks for a hundred and ten. That went to Calcutta with Abhirama.

Prabhupada: Oh, that check. And another check?

Hari-sauri: And that other check went with Ramesvara to Bombay.

Satsvarūpa: One of their arguments is that they'll get some member and deprogram him, some weak devotee, and then he will go to court or he will write and say, "Yes. I did not want to join this movement, but they did something to me, and I lost my free will, and then..."

Prabhupada: They have said like that?

Satsvarūpa: Yes. They tell so many lies. They say that the devotee looked into his eyes, and suddenly he couldn't think anymore.

Prabhupada: Accha?

Satsvarūpa: That's what Adi-kesava is being charged with-mind control.

Pradyumna: Like Vasikarana. Like mind control, hypnotism.

Prabhupada: So why not let me control your mind? I'll control your mind-the judge. [someone enters] Hare Krsna. Hmm? No, no. No, no. Let him come. Why? Call him.

Satsvarūpa: It's all right. He can come.

Prabhupada: They should not say like that. Ask. [Transl. From where have you come?]

Indian man: [Transl. We live in Govardhana.]

Prabhupada: Eh?

Indian man: [Transl. We live in Govardhana. Both of us are working there.] [break]

Satsvarūpa: They should speak their mind to you about this.

Prabhupada: No, you talk amongst yourselves everything. And you are all GBC. Tell, "This is not good." They should have kirtana here. They should go to the city, kirtana party. People should know that there is..., something is going to be done. Actually they want to enjoy that sea-bathing. They're going here and there. That is their business. That is not preaching; that is sense enjoyment. Prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama . That is the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Why there should be discrimination, "Not here, not there"? He wants in every village and every town. How you can discriminate? Wherever possible, you should start.

Satsvarūpa: How is all the money for construction for this temple supposed to come? By the local preaching by Gaura-Govinda or...

Prabhupada: Somehow or other, it must come. He has promised that he will collect half.

Satsvarūpa: That's right. And whatever he collects, you said you would...

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Satsvarūpa: I heard that he was told whatever he collects you would match that or match half of it.

Prabhupada: Hmm, hmm, hmm. Gargamuni may go and organize in Dacca. That will be a great service. He was speaking of going to Dacca. That will be greater service.

Satsvarūpa: I thought they were mostly going for the library work.

Prabhupada: Whatever... No, he says there is possible, that Gauḍiya Matha. If in Pakistan, in Bangladesh, if he can organize one center, it will be great triumph.

Satsvarūpa: Dacca.

Prabhupada: Kirtana and prasada distribution. This is our preaching mainly. And if they hear little philosophy, that is very good. Otherwise simply kirtana and prasada distribution is sufficient. Caitanya Mahaprabhu used to do that. He was not speaking philosophy to everyone. Kirtana and prasada distribution. So our men can perform very nice kirtana, and if they come to take little prasadam, that is preaching. You have to maintain this standard, that kirtana must go on and prasadam should be distributed.

Satsvarūpa: And take collection for that, to continue that.

Prabhupada: Yes. By selling books, by contribution, somehow or other maintain. Everywhere.

Satsvarūpa: Our movement has changed in America in the past six years or so. Now devotees are not much seen on the streets chanting. So there's different feelings. Some say it is all right, because everyone is now distributing books more.

Prabhupada: That is also nice.

Satsvarūpa: That's also a kind of kirtana. But then the public, they hardly ever see us anymore. They used to say, "Oh, the saffron-robed people chanting on the streets."

Prabhupada: But they come to the love feast.

Satsvarūpa: Yes.

Prabhupada: That's all right.

Satsvarūpa: Yes. It's not necessary to emphasize that street chanting.

Prabhupada: No. Sell books and invite them to come to temple for love feast. [pause]

Satsvarūpa: And there is all these men. It's still five more days before the ceremony. If they can do this..., programs locally.

Prabhupada: Yes. They should go to the... Yes, locally. Kirtana party. They should go in their bus and have in the city kirtana party. Try to collect something. [end]