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Srila Prabhupada and Disciples Speak
New York, April 9, 1969
Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. So today you speak something, I shall hear. Yes. Any of you can speak something from Siksastaka? Yes? Stand up.
Visnujana: "Glory to Sri Krsna sankirtana, which cleanses the heart of all the dust accumulated for years together. And thus the fire of conditional life, of repeated birth and death, is extinguished. Such sankirtana movement gives the essence of all nectar of transcendental bliss and helps us to have a taste of that full nectarean for which always anxious we are." So this is the mercy you have given us, this sankirtana movement, that every day, ten hours a day, we can chant the holy name of God right out on the street, and everyone who sees and hears is learning about Lord Caitanya, is learning about the Hare Krsna movement and is practically engaged in devotion.
Prabhupada: Thank you. Rsi Kumara, you can speak something? Yes.
Rsi Kumara: In the Vedic literatures it is stated that there are 8,400,000 species of life that one can take in this material world. So we've come to this human form, taken this human body, and it's such a great opportunity for realizing the purpose of life. We're so fortunate that Prabhupada has come to teach us this process of realizing our self in this human form. So take advantage of this causeless mercy which Krsna has sent us.
Prabhupada: Thank you. Hm. There is a verse by Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, vairagya-vidya-nija-bhakti-yogam apayayan mam anabhipsum andham krpambudhir yas tam aham... [Cc. Madhya 6.254]. Sanatanam... Krpambudhir yas sanatanam prabhu tam aham asrayah. Like that. Sanatana... Six Gosvamis, Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami, Gopala Bhatta Gosvami, Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, Jiva Gosvami. So Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, he was a very rich man's son and he was youngest. All the Gosvamins used to treat him as younger brother. So he's writing his realization, vairagya-vidya-nija-bhakti-yogam. This bhakti-yogam, devotional service, is..., another name is vairagya-vidya. Vairagya-vidya means... Vairagya means renunciation. We are now caught up by this material body, and we have to get out.
So this process of getting out is noncooperation. That is called vairagya-vidya. So Raghunatha dasa Gosvami says that "I was unwilling to accept this vairagya-vidya, but He forced me to take it." And... Apayayan mam anabhipsum andham: "Because I was blind, I thought that this material world is everything. Therefore I was blind. And therefore I was unwilling also." People are unwilling to accept the Krsna consciousness because they are blind. They do not see actual position of their life. That is the position (of) conditioned soul. They are busy simply for sense gratification. So vairagya-vidya means not sense gratification, but to satisfy Krsna. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam: [Cc. Madhya 19.170] to satisfy the senses of Krsna. Material life means satisfying our own senses, and vairagya-vidya, or devotional service, means satisfying Krsna's senses. That's all. What is the difference between material so-called love and Radha-Krsna love? The difference is, in the material world, both the parties, they are trying to satisfy their own senses. It doesn't matter. When a boy loves a girl or a girl loves a boy, the motive is his or her own sense satisfaction. But the gopis, their view is... Not only gopis. All the cowherds boys, mother Yasoda, Nanda Maharaja, the Vrndavana party. So all of themóready to satisfy Krsna. Krsna, when He was a boy, His father was arranging for Indra-yajna. Krsna said, "My dear father, there is no need of arranging for Indra-yajna. Better you offer these materials to Govardhana Hill." The father answered, "My dear boy, if You want to offer some sacrifice to the Govardhana Hill, I shall arrange for another yajna. This is our custom. We are observing this traditionally. So let us perform this." Krsna said, "No, there is no need." The old man immediately rejected, "All right. Krsna, to satisfy Krsna." The old tradition immediately gave up. And Indra saw, "Oh, this boy is so impudent. He has stopped my yajna. All right, I shall teach something."
So there was torrents of rain, heavy rain, for seven days in Vrndavana, and Krsna took up that Govardhana Hill on the little finger of His left hand and kept it for seven days in this way. (referring to picture?) Where is that Govardhana Hill? Is that Govardhana Hill? No. Inside, yes. No, no. No, there is no need. Yes. So Krsna is so powerful that even when He was seven years old He could raise the hill, Govardhana Hill, on the top of His little finger, left hand, like this. So we worship such kind of God. Yes. Who can... (chuckles) We don't want petty gods. You see. We want God like that. Yes. When He was on the lap of His mother and the Putana came to kill Him by sucking her breast, so Krsna sucked her breast and life both. This is Krsna. God is not made, manufactured, that by meditation one becomes God. "First of all he was dog; now he has become God." It is not like that. God is God from the very beginning, always God. Whether He is a small baby or He's young man or... God never becomes old man.
So Krsna showed all these demonstrations just to attract us. Just to let us know what is God. You are puzzled about God, you are speculating. Somebody is saying, "There is no God." Somebody is saying, "There is this, there is that." But here is actual God. So you see. And if you want God, then "Come on. I have come to take you back, back to home, back to Godhead." So this same thing is still going on. If you want to go to God, you can go. There is no hindrance. But if you want at all, then there is way, this Bhagavad-gita. And the way is very simple. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. Simply you become surrendered to Krsna and always pray to Krsna. Just like Narottama dasa Thakura prays, ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu-suta-yuta: "My dear Lord Krsna, the son of Maharaja Nanda, now You are standing before me with Radharani, the daughter of Vrsabhanu." Ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu-suta, karuna karoho ei-baro: "Many lives I have wasted in this material encagement. Life after life, I was frustrated and baffled. Now, this life I am dedicated unto You." Ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu, karuna karoho ei: "Now You become merciful. You are already merciful, but due to my forgetfulness, rebellious condition of life, I did not surrender unto You. Now I have come to my senses." Bahunam janmanam ante [Bg. 7.19]. "After many, many births, so I surrender unto You. Please give me Your protection." This much. That's all. There is no necessity. Of course, not in the beginning, but actually, one who has surrendered to Krsna fully, without any reservation, his life is perfect. That's all.
So keep this attitude of surrendering and then everything will come, perfection. And this remembrance also will be kept by chanting the mantra, Hare Krsna. Chant Hare Krsna. Yes. Prabhati, Prabhati(?) should... Morning tune. Yes. (kirtana) (end)