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Prabhupada: Today, Varaha-dvadasi, appearance of Krsna's taking the incarnation of Varaha, boar... Kesava dhrta-sukara-rupa jaya jagadisa hare.
ramadi-murtisu kala-niyamena tisthan
nanavataram akarod bhuvanesu kintu
krsnah svayam samabhavat paramah puman yo
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
Krsna, Govinda, adi-purusa, the original person, He is taking various forms. Ramadi-murtisu specially. Three Rama: Parasurama, Balarama, and Dasarathi Rama. So this Rama means enjoyment. So Krsna's enjoyment... It does not mean, Krsna has appeared as the boar; it does not mean He is suffering. Everything is ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis [Bs. 5.37]. Sometimes a big man becomes a horse. It is... There is a very nice interesting story that the big Prime Minister Gladstone, English, English Prime Minister, Gladstone?
Prabhupada: Yes. So somebody came to see him for an interview. So the servant informed the visitor that "The Prime Minister is now busy, you have to wait." So he was waiting. He was big man. So one hour passed. So he became inquisitive, so with little opening of the door, he wanted to see the how this man is engaged. I am waiting for one hour . So he saw that the Prime Minister has become a horse, taking his grandchild on the back, and he's playing like a horse. And the important visitor is waiting for one hour. So this is enjoyment. The Prime Minister is not the horse, but he is enjoying taking his grandchild on the back and he was playing like a horse and the grandchild was, "Hut! Hut! Hut! Hut!" This was his engagement. So similarly, because he has become the horse of his grandchild, he is not horse, he is enjoying. That is enjoyment. Similarly when kesava dhrta-sukara-rupa or kesava dhrta-varaha-rupa does not mean that He is varaha, or He is crocodile, or He is something like... No. He's everything. But that is not by karma. When we become crocodile, that is karma, punishment. We are now human being. It may be next life I become a crocodile according to karma, be forced by the laws of nature. Just like in Honolulu, Hawaii, we see so many young boys, they are enjoying, they are surfing in the middle of the ocean, struggling. So our karma, if you are practiced to that way, then at the time of death I shall think of just, in the middle ocean, swimming and struggling, then Krsna will give opportunity to become a aquatic. Very easily we can remain within the water. That is the laws of nature. Yam yam vapi smaran loke tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6].
So our taking the shape of crocodile or boar or something animal that is karma. But that is a horse, real horse is karma but the Gladstone's becoming horse, that is not karma, that is enjoyment. We should understand like that, that when kesava dhrta-kurma-sarira and varaha-sarira, He's not forced by karma. Na mam karmani limpanti [Bg. 4.14]. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, na me karma-phale sprha. He is self-sufficient. So, everything His enjoyment. We are also seeking enjoyment because we are part and parcel of Krsna. So anandamayo 'bhyasat (Vedanta-sutra 1.1.12). Krsna or His part and parcel, the same quality. Krsna is seeking enjoyment, and we are also seeking enjoyment, but we can enjoy together in the spiritual world without any hamper, without any impediment.
tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih
goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
When we dance with Krsna in the Goloka Vrndavana, both of us are enjoying. Krsna is enjoying; we are also enjoying. But if we want to enjoy independent of Krsna or to imitate Krsna or to become Krsna, then it is maya. Then it is maya. This material world means the same enjoying spirit is there within me, but if I want to become Krsna or enjoy independently, then it is maya. So therefore we should enjoy with Krsna. That is the aim of... The same thing is there.
So Krsna comes therefore, personally appears and exhibits His enjoying love in Vrndavana. He brings His friends, His girl-friends, boy-friends, everything, His father, His mother, and shows that "The enjoyment which you are seeking, that is there in the spiritual world with Me. See how I am enjoying." Just so that we may have our brain cleared that if we enjoy with Krsna, we can enjoy the dance, the paternal love, the conjugal love, the friendly playing with boys, with animals, who is in the garden, in the forest, in the water-same thing is there. Everything is there, all the sporting, but spiritual. So this is Krsna's lila. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis [Bs. 5.37]. So we are seeking pleasure within this material world. That is imitation. That is not real enjoyment. But the basic principle of enjoyment is there. Here there is imitation enjoyment, love between young boy young girl. So wherefrom it comes? It is there in Krsna. Otherwise how it can come? It is not possible. Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. This loving exchange between young boy, young girl is there. Krsna is also enjoying there. The gopis, the young girls, Krsna is young... The exchange of love between father and son, mother and son; the exchange of love between friend and friend, the exchange of love between animal and man...
We, just like we keep so many animals, Krsna is also enjoying with the calves. Sometimes with other animal also. Same thing is there. It is simply imitation here. Otherwise, everything is there in the spiritual world. We are mistaking, here, karma-phala-vadya (?). But here is no inebrieties, in the spiritual world. Here it is full of inebrieties. You'll see that Krsna is enjoying with the gopis but there is no inebriety. There is no pregnancy, there is no abortion. That is the beauty. And the material world the love turns into lusty desires and it entails so many difficulties. Yan-maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham kanduyanena karayor iva duhkha-duhkham [SB 7.9.45]. Here sex life means entailed with so many sufferings. But there is no sex life in the spiritual world but the pleasure is there. That is the difference between material and spiritual. Therefore there is restriction. Just like sex life is there, but a tuberculosis patient, if he enjoys sex life, he'll die very soon. Without sex life he could live for some years. Everyone will die. So for tuberculosis patient sex life is strictly prohibited. So when there is prohibition... Just like in the material world there is prohibition, "No sex life," because we are patient here, tuberculosis patient. If we enjoy sex life then we'll die. Die means... We are already dead because we have to accept this dead body. This body is dead. But so long I am within this body, simply it is moving. Just like motor car. Motor car is a lump of matter, but when the driver is acting, it is moving. Similarly this body... By maya we are thinking that this body is living. It is not living. It is dead. From the very beginning it is dead. And when the soul will go away, it will appear its real identity-dead. Otherwise it is dead. Therefore Krsna says that "You are lamenting on this body? Oh, you are such a rascal." Nanusocanti panditah. Those who are learned, they do not care for this body, either dead or alive. It is dead matter. So why should you lament for the dead matter?
This is spiritual life. When we are not at all concerned with this body, material body, that is the beginning of spiritual life. And so long we are interested with the dead lump of matter without any information of the spirit soul within it, that is material life. This is the difference between material life and spiritual life.
One who is in ignorance, without any knowledge of the spirit soul and identifying with this body and trying to enjoy life, he is implicated. Implicated. Life after life we change and enjoy in different ways. What (is) the enjoyment? The enjoyment is eating, sleeping, sex, and defense. So either you become one little insect or you become Brahma, the same enjoyment in different forms. Therefore punah punas carvita-carvananam [SB 7.5.30], repeating the same process-eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. But there is a life eternal which is not this eating-sleeping but another enjoyment, ananda-cinmaya-rasa. We can get it. So therefore in this life we should understand, we should be little sober, that this is our diseased condition. I am eternal. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. Why I am put into this condition of birth, death, old age, and disease. This is my disease. This is not healthy condition. So one who is sober, dhira, he understands that "This is my tuberculosis disease state." We should restrict all the so-called material happiness and prepare for the spiritual life, eternal life That is a human consciousness. Otherwise you are in darkness, mudha. Duskrtina, mudha, naradhama. Life is lost. So Krsna has so many lilas, activities. Krsna is not different from His activities, He is absolute. So these are the occasions we can hear about His activities. We are benefited. Therefore He plays sometimes as mina-sarira, as varaha-sarira, as kurma-sarira. Ramadi-murtisu-kala niyamena. There are hundreds and thousands of incarnations. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam [Bs. 5.33]. Just like you cannot count the waves of the river, it is going on continually. Similarly, the incarnation of Krsna is going on eternally, so many. If you take the opportunity of hearing-sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]—about Visnu's lila activities... And if you simply stick to the nirakara Brahman, what we shall hear? Therefore they fall down, these Mayavadis who simply take seriously the impersonal feature of Krsna, because there is no lila. "Brahman brahman aham brahman brahman," then how long it will go on? It will be hackneyed. But when we take to Krsna's personal activities, then are newer, newer, newer, and multi and many... Then we get the opportunity of hearing Krsna. Then you stick. Otherwise, if I simply become understood about the Brahman feature, it will be hackneyed, we want seek ananda, pleasure. So in the impersonal feature there is no pleasure. Just like in the sky, even if you take a very nice airplane, and simply fly in the sky, you'll be very much displeased. That is our practical experience. If you go in the sea and for months together remain in the sea, you'll be very much sick. We want pleasure. We want pleasure, varieties. That is Krsna's desire. He also discover..., varieties of pleasure, and if we join with Him, we also enjoy the varieties of pleasure eternally in the spiritual world. That is success of life.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya Prabhupada (end)